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Old 12-03-2014, 01:33 PM
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Yes. I think it works well.

It does not work as effective, IMO, when broken up over a few days. For some reason people take too long to teach it but I can do it in about an hour

You have to already know the material and the point it's trying to make, which is essentially to get them to realize they need to find out what the Apostles taught in Acts
So after the study you fill up the tub and start baptizing people? Or is it designed to get a person to come to church, hear preaching, get convicted, and then make a decision?

Also, can you explain how you present it? Do you just read it straight through?
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:44 PM
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So after the study you fill up the tub and start baptizing people? Or is it designed to get a person to come to church, hear preaching, get convicted, and then make a decision?

Also, can you explain how you present it? Do you just read it straight through?
Yes they decide to be baptized and receive the Holy Spirit. I sort of read it straight through but as I said I pretty much have it memorized so I end up going off script so to speak

I like to begin with basics, explaining why we need to be saved, then I go through the bible study with them.

I won't let them read any verses out loud themselves as I have found most people who are not used to going to church and reading the bible just don't read very well and it can be painfully slow and you have to end up just reading them again anyways

There are sections where there are fill in the blank questions you use to basically remind them what you just examined
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Yes they decide to be baptized and receive the Holy Spirit. I sort of read it straight through but as I said I pretty much have it memorized so I end up going off script so to speak

I like to begin with basics, explaining why we need to be saved, then I go through the bible study with them.

I won't let them read any verses out loud themselves as I have found most people who are not used to going to church and reading the bible just don't read very well and it can be painfully slow and you have to end up just reading them again anyways

There are sections where there are fill in the blank questions you use to basically remind them what you just examined
So for you then you basically give a presentation and the paper itself is more of a read-along for them?

I'm just trying to get an idea how it is supposed to work.

Is the success due to the IHML itself? Or the ability of presenters to efficiently articulate the gospel?
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So for you then you basically give a presentation and the paper itself is more of a read-along for them?

I'm just trying to get an idea how it is supposed to work.

Is the success due to the IHML itself? Or the ability of presenters to efficiently articulate the gospel?
Sort of, only because I have a lot of it memorized, but no I do read it too. I just often end up not needing to.

I believe the success is partly the study and partly presentation. You yourself have to understand WHAT the point is you are trying to get across.
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Sort of, only because I have a lot of it memorized, but no I do read it too. I just often end up not needing to.

I believe the success is partly the study and partly presentation. You yourself have to understand WHAT the point is you are trying to get across.
Can you give some more detail on how the study is presented? Like, "I show up at the individual's house and..."?
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Can you give some more detail on how the study is presented? Like, "I show up at the individual's house and..."?
Yes you can do that or meet somewhere. I often do it at church. You want to be able to devote the time to the study without distractions

I always introduce the study as a topical bible study to explain why we are jumping around and not reading reams and reams of context for each.

And as I said I like to begin by explaining about sin and why we need to be saved.

Not real complicated. Start off with a quick prayer. Ask them to follow along. Keep them involved from time to time by letting them read and ask questions

One very important issue is to remind them that any issues or questions not pertaining to the topic should be held for another time.

Any arguments should be held to after the bible study etc etc

And If they have questions on something that you will later get to, put that off as well. Don't get sidetracked by questions especially ones not pertaining to the topic and ones what will be answered by the end of the study
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  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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Re: Into His Marvellous Light

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Yes you can do that or meet somewhere. I often do it at church. You want to be able to devote the time to the study without distractions
I always introduce the study as a topical bible study to explain why we are jumping around and not reading reams and reams of context for each.
And as I said I like to begin by explaining about sin and why we need to be saved.
Not real complicated. Start off with a quick prayer. Ask them to follow along. Keep them involved from time to time by letting them read and ask questions
One very important issue is to remind them that any issues or questions not pertaining to the topic should be held for another time.
Any arguments should be held to after the bible study etc etc
And If they have questions on something that you will later get to, put that off as well. Don't get sidetracked by questions especially ones not pertaining to the topic and ones what will be answered by the end of the study
One very important issue is to remind them that any issues or questions not pertaining to the topic
should be held for another time.


That is a very important element in (almost) any Bible Study Series. I have stated, from the beginning,
to hold the questions for the first three weeks because they will find most of their questions answered
by that time. Worked out very well.
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