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Old 12-16-2014, 08:33 AM
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Re: "in the Spirit"

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If I understand you correctly, this is a false dichotomy. The born again believer is one spirit with the Lord. The abiding Holy Spirit moves through and speaks through what many call the "human spirit".

Where did I backpeddle?
The human spirit unites to the Spirit of God to become one. Like the flesh unites in marriage between a man and a woman. But Paul still said HIS SPIRIT. Just like a man and wife each STILL have distinct flesh, so it is with our spirits and God's., which of course was with God's Spirit.

Just accept it. Paul prayed with HIS spirit. His understanding was not a faculty of his spirit. The SOUL is what understands.



The human spirit is the faculty about us that discerns and communes with God. The soul does not. Spirit and soul are not synonymous. We can be grieved in human spirit. A human spirit that is wounded is worse than a broken leg. lol

There are all sorts of passages that speak of the human spirit.

Rom 1:9 For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers;

1Co 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,

1Co 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.

1Co 16:18 For they have refreshed my spirit and yours: therefore acknowledge ye them that are such.

2Co 2:13 I had no rest in my spirit, because I found not Titus my brother: but taking my leave of them, I went from thence into Macedonia.

BOTH God's Spirit and our own are involved in anything SPIRITual. The SPIRITual part of us is obviously our spirits.
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Re: "in the Spirit"

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The human spirit unites to the Spirit of God to become one. Like the flesh unites in marriage between a man and a woman. But Paul still said HIS SPIRIT. Just like a man and wife each STILL have distinct flesh, so it is with our spirits and God's., which of course was with God's Spirit.

Just accept it. Paul prayed with HIS spirit. His understanding was not a faculty of his spirit. The SOUL is what understands.



The human spirit is the faculty about us that discerns and communes with God. The soul does not. Spirit and soul are not synonymous. We can be grieved in human spirit. A human spirit that is wounded is worse than a broken leg. lol

There are all sorts of passages that speak of the human spirit.

Rom 1:9 For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers;

1Co 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,

1Co 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.

1Co 16:18 For they have refreshed my spirit and yours: therefore acknowledge ye them that are such.

2Co 2:13 I had no rest in my spirit, because I found not Titus my brother: but taking my leave of them, I went from thence into Macedonia.

BOTH God's Spirit and our own are involved in anything SPIRITual. The SPIRITual part of us is obviously our spirits.
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Re: "in the Spirit"

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The human spirit unites to the Spirit of God to become one. Like the flesh unites in marriage between a man and a woman. But Paul still said HIS SPIRIT. Just like a man and wife each STILL have distinct flesh, so it is with our spirits and God's., which of course was with God's Spirit.

Just accept it. Paul prayed with HIS spirit. His understanding was not a faculty of his spirit. The SOUL is what understands.



The human spirit is the faculty about us that discerns and communes with God. The soul does not. Spirit and soul are not synonymous. We can be grieved in human spirit. A human spirit that is wounded is worse than a broken leg. lol

There are all sorts of passages that speak of the human spirit.

Rom 1:9 For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers;

1Co 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,

1Co 14:14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.

1Co 16:18 For they have refreshed my spirit and yours: therefore acknowledge ye them that are such.

2Co 2:13 I had no rest in my spirit, because I found not Titus my brother: but taking my leave of them, I went from thence into Macedonia.

BOTH God's Spirit and our own are involved in anything SPIRITual. The SPIRITual part of us is obviously our spirits.
So, you believe that just because Paul wrote, "my spirit", the prayer isn't "in the Spirit" and that the Holy Spirit cannot possibly be involved???
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So, you believe that just because Paul wrote, "my spirit", the prayer isn't "in the Spirit" and that the Holy Spirit cannot possibly be involved???
Where did he say that?
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