Dave Bernard addresses beards

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

No I would NOT have the power to stop them from attending but they would NEVER be accepted as a member. I would treat them as a visitor until they died or left. They would not have any priviledge as a member.The congregation would know they are not a member and they would know they are not a member. Anyone can sit in the building but not everyone can be a member.

Member of what? As if being called a member has some priveledge or something. What does being a member mean? They have to give their tithes cause you said so? They have to be at church for every service cause you said so? The women can't wear pants cause you said so? Tell me, what benefit is there to being a member over being considered a visitor?

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Ronzo, are you saying this because you have a beard????? What if your wife suddenly decided to let her hair grow all over her body?? Would that be stupid? Personally, I don't care one way or another if anyone was to have a beard. But there are people attacking a pastor who will give an account to God for those he pastors. If he feels more comfortable with his saints not having a beard, why question his motives?

Give........................... me......................... a............................ break



By the way, I no longer have a wife... well, not officially anyway.




Oh... and a pastor that tells someone they can't have a beard is a.... never mind...

[Rico]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Ronzo, are you saying this because you have a beard????? What if your wife suddenly decided to let her hair grow all over her body?? Would that be stupid? Personally, I don't care one way or another if anyone was to have a beard. But there are people attacking a pastor who will give an account to God for those he pastors. If he feels more comfortable with his saints not having a beard, why question his motives?

Bro. E., no one is attacking Bro Epley. We all love Bro Epley. We are attacking his mindset. Big difference and he knows it.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

Thanks for the clarity! It's akin to a "platform" standard!! Soon you will go charismatic.

NOT the same. A person with facial CANNOT be a member. Has nothing to do with being on the platform. I would NOT accept him as a member of this local assembly. He would be a visitor.

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Ronzo, are you saying this because you have a beard????? What if your wife suddenly decided to let her hair grow all over her body?? Would that be stupid? Personally, I don't care one way or another if anyone was to have a beard. But there are people attacking a pastor who will give an account to God for those he pastors. If he feels more comfortable with his saints not having a beard, why question his motives?

Are you serious???? What if doesn't feel comfortable with any of his saints using birth control? Or driving hondas?

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Michlow

How can you say that? It's just stupid! They just arbitrarily set up rules. And you guys meekly swallow everything you are fed. Any pastor that feels a need to be in control of his congregations personal grooming habits is drunk with power, IMHO.

Are you going to a church where the pastor is arbitrarily making up the rules as he goes? If you do not attend one of these churches, then why would you care? Do you have a beard sis?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Rico

Member of what? As if being called a member has some priveledge or something. What does being a member mean? They have to give their tithes cause you said so? They have to be at church for every service cause you said so? The women can't wear pants cause you said so? Tell me, what benefit is there to being a member over being considered a visitor?

I would not serve them communion. They would just be a visitor.

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

NOT the same. A person with facial CANNOT be a member. Has nothing to do with being on the platform. I would NOT accept him as a member of this local assembly. He would be a visitor.

Did I miss the part in the conversation where you used Biblical evidence to back up your stance?

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

NOT the same. A person with facial CANNOT be a member. Has nothing to do with being on the platform. I would NOT accept him as a member of this local assembly. He would be a visitor.

You already stated that it is not a salvational issue. My question to you is, why the rule? Please give a real answer.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I would not serve them communion. They would just be a visitor.

You err greatly here. This is very dangerous.