Why I am Now Convinced of a Pre-Trib Rapture

[Sean]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Sean, I just told you! lol

Thanks Mike, so you dont agree with those preterists that posted that?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Sean

Thanks Mike, so you dont agree with those preterists that posted that?

You win a cookie Sean.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You win a cookie Sean.

[mfblume]

Sean, I believe partial preterism. You're forgetting quite a lot in the last few days.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Sean, I believe partial preterism. You're forgetting quite a lot in the last few days.

Okay, thats all I need to know, thats an interesting position, because it gives a guy room to wiggle out of the full preteristic viewpoint when the big guns start interpreting for you guys and it starts getting out of hand.


Loren just said all of Rev. is metaphoric?

Does that make him a full preterist?

It sounds to me like the guys that actually write or create the doctrines of the preterist books of interpretations are very highly esteemed in your circles.

They are incredibly clever.

I wish I had that kind of imagination...

These are probably the kinds of kids that could not stop pretending as children and kept it up through adult life.

They had a "different" reality than what everyone else saw.

Lucky them!

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Sean

Okay, thats all I need to know, thats an interesting position, because it gives a guy room to wiggle out of the full preteristic viewpoint when the big guns start interpreting for you guys and it starts getting out of hand.


Loren just said all of Rev. is metaphoric?

Does that make him a full preterist?

It sounds to me like the guys that actually write or create the doctrines of the preterist books of interpretations are very highly esteemed in your circles.

They are incredibly clever.

I wish I had that kind of imagination...

These are probably the kinds of kids that could not stop pretending as children and kept it up through adult life.

They had a "different" reality than what everyone else saw.

Lucky them!

All you write can be summed up as one grand set of circular reasoning, you are right because you are right. You've proved actually nothing.

And you trivialize our beliefs as wanting convenience. Sean we've been criticized for this but we hold on, since it's our sincere beliefs . Nothing wiggling about it. We'd be treated far better if we agreed with you. It's the pop prophecy view. But we hold true to our consciences and what God showed us.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by mfblume

All you write can be summed up as one grand set of circular reasoning, you are right because you are right. You've proved actually nothing.

What is really scary, is that Sean actually is convinced that he is having a dialog on eschatology. A dialog where he is actually refuting you with nothing more than quips. Well, I guess I can't say quips, because Sean isn't what I would consider witty. Come to think of it, he seems to have the mind of a small child. Anyway, you pretty much summed this discussion up quite well with your first line of your post. Sean is right because he is he is right. Yet, instead of an answering questions for you (like you are doing for him) so we can compare differences in the different eschatologies to show why you believe what you believe, and why Sean believes what Sean believes. We are led round, and round, up, and down a thread reading the same thing page after page. All this while Sean rides Rocinante towards yet another fire breathing windmill of eschatology.

Originally Posted by mfblume

And you trivialize our beliefs as wanting convenience.

But Brother Blume isn't that what Sean is doing with what he believes? Since he hasn't the foggiest idea what the Biblical symbols are in the Hebrew Bible, and how the early Israelites viewed and prophetically understood these symbols, he goes for the convenience of just making a seven horned, seven eyed, lamb with its throat slit, seated physically on a physical throne in the future a convenient interpretation. Just imagine if you had Sean explain the Temple of Ezekiel, and the Revelation New Jerusalem? The only thing he could possibly do is hunt through a Google search until he found something remotely close to what you are asking him. He doesn't know the problems with these issues, and hasn't clue how to deal with half the problems within the different eschatologies. He just truly believes that he is just vanquishing another windmill.

Originally Posted by mfblume

Sean we've been criticized for this but we hold on, since it's our sincere beliefs . Nothing wiggling about it. We'd be treated far better if we agreed with you. It's the pop prophecy view.

Sean criticizing anyone's eschatology, is like a small child criticizing me for how I adjust the lifters on a 1961 XLCH Sporter. Sean, Goggle searches, and cuts and pastes. If he had just a sliver of honesty, you would go and study what he believes and strengthen his arguments. Come back and joust armed with some knowledge.

Originally Posted by mfblume

But we hold true to our consciences and what God showed us.

Yes, God showed us. Not sitting on a couch, not searching the Internet, but studying out book, chapter, and verse, with the sincere desire to understand the truth of God's word.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Sean, I believe partial preterism. You're forgetting quite a lot in the last few days.

He doesn't care what form of Preterist eschatology you believe. He hardly reads anything that is posted to him.