Why I Am A Futurist

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

MB either I am misunderstanding you are you are me, but I believe this is the point I was making. The Lord's return on judgement day will come as a thief in the night. We can't be sure of the day, but we can be sure of its fulfillment. His timing is not our timing, but His prophecies are true. Is that not what this is saying in a nutshell. You have to speak plain to me because I am a little simple minded.

First of all, I do not believe the second coming is like a thief in the night. I think that all referred to the first century coming of destruction.

Not sure what part of what I said needs clarification. Thanks!

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by mfblume

First of all, I do not believe the second coming is like a thief in the night. I think that all referred to the first century coming of destruction.

Not sure what part of what I said needs clarification. Thanks!

Luke 12:39 And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through. 40 Be ye therefore ready also:for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

So do you believe that the resurrection will take place as a thief in the night? I believe it will take place speedily and unpredictably.

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by mfblume

First of all, I do not believe the second coming is like a thief in the night. I think that all referred to the first century coming of destruction.

Not sure what part of what I said needs clarification. Thanks!

O.k. I am trying to get on the same page.

You believe that most of the great trib prophecies are really the destruction of Israel? I can swallow that. sort of.


You believe that we are in the millennial reign although you would say we are in the kingdom reign? I can swallow that. sort of.

I thought before that you believed that the resurrection and judgement would take place at the second coming and it would be speedily and unexepctedly?
This is where I am trying to find you out.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

O.k. I am trying to get on the same page.

You believe that most of the great trib prophecies are really the destruction of Israel? I can swallow that. sort of.


You believe that we are in the millennial reign although you would say we are in the kingdom reign? I can swallow that. sort of.

I thought before that you believed that the resurrection and judgement would take place at the second coming and it would be speedily and unexepctedly?
This is where I am trying to find you out.

So in your view is the great tribulation different than the book of Revelation?

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

So in your view is the great tribulation different than the book of Revelation?

No, but for the sake of learning I like to know others points of view. I am very open minded when it comes to the details in the prophecies concerning end times.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

O.k. I am trying to get on the same page.

You believe that most of the great trib prophecies are really the destruction of Israel? I can swallow that. sort of.


You believe that we are in the millennial reign although you would say we are in the kingdom reign? I can swallow that. sort of.

I thought before that you believed that the resurrection and judgement would take place at the second coming and it would be speedily and unexepctedly?
This is where I am trying to find you out.

The resurrection will take place at the second coming, yes. And it will be in the twinkling of an eye. The reference to the twinkling of an eye is in association with the resurrection in 1 Cor 15. But the references to the thief in the night are not. They ONLY and SOLELY deal with the destruction coming swiftly upon Jerusalem. The thief in the night is in Matt 24. Matt 24 deals with first century tribulation.

So in essence I agree with that you said, only I'd say you confused references to the destruction of Jerusalem with the second coming by saying the second coming resurrection comes like a thief in the night. The thief in the night references deal with destruction alone if you read them carefully in Matt 24.

Yes, the resurrection will be rapid and unexpected. But most of the unexpected references are in Matt 24 and deal with the impending destruction on Jerusalem.