Why I Am A Futurist

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Bowas

Only one problem with, (if I understand you are trying to claim AD70 was not the generation Jesus, Apostles and fortunately the Christians in Jerusalem in AD70 believed it was concerning Matt 24 and fled Jerusalem to the saving of themselves) but in the year 1940 seems there was @18,000,000 Jews world wide.
AD 70 was the worst, not due to the quantity of killed and scattered to the nations, but the magnitude of the crime/event of even why it occured.

Don't even try to make it seem I downplay the autroucities of the Hitler era, but AD 70 is what Matt 24 is prophesying

Is that what you are claiming?

So do you believe Jesus came and took his people to Heaven in 70ad?

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

So do you believe Jesus came and took his people to Heaven in 70ad?

I think that the preterists argument is that He came and made his people the kingdom of Heaven. I think they are correct in ways, but they may not be prepared for the tragedy that is to come upon this earth. The church is the kingdom of God, but everyone that professes to be part of the Church may soon realize that there is more to it that they believe. Every thing is built upon the foundation will be tried by fire and not every work will stand. I want to be ready!!!!

[Bowas]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

So do you believe Jesus came and took his people to Heaven in 70ad?

Not at all. AD 70 was not that type coming, just a localized coming in judgement.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Bowas

Not at all. AD 70 was not that type coming, just a localized coming in judgement.

Ok so to get me focused....you are a "partial" preterist? And there are actually people who DO believe that Jesus came and took Christians away to Heaven? They are "full" preterists?

[Bowas]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Ok so to get me focused....you are a "partial" preterist? And there are actually people who DO believe that Jesus came and took Christians away to Heaven? They are "full" preterists?

I won't present what full preterists believe as I feel the best way to understand what a view point is, is to get it straight from one that believes it and not from second-hand or hearsay, but yes, I am partial preterist.
At one time I was pretib (although it was merely what I was taught) and when I began my independent studies I graduated to Post-trib, (as pre-trib was the weakest view to explain Biblically) and upon further review, I became partial preterist and am convinced it holds closest to what Jesus and the apostles taught, particularly the events leading up to and surrounding the temple destruction and the scattering of the Jewish and the preservation of the Christians at that time. No, they weren't rapture, but fled Jerusalem when they saw the gentile armies surround Jerusalem, just like Jesus told them to do.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Bowas

I won't present what full preterists believe as I feel the best way to understand what a view point is, is to get it straight from one that believes it and not from second-hand or hearsay, but yes, I am partial preterist.
At one time I was pretib (although it was merely what I was taught) and when I began my independent studies I graduated to Post-trib, (as pre-trib was the weakest view to explain Biblically) and upon further review, I became partial preterist and am convinced it holds closest to what Jesus and the apostles taught, particularly the events leading up to and surrounding the temple destruction and the scattering of the Jewish and the preservation of the Christians at that time. No, they weren't rapture, but fled Jerusalem when they saw the gentile armies surround Jerusalem, just like Jesus told them to do.

The full prets must be ashamed to declare what they believe. I cant blame them. I have talked to some of them and am reasonably sure they believe Jesus already came in 70ad but I guess Im just trying to hear it again to make sure.