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Old 02-11-2015, 09:27 PM
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Interesting thought also. How long was the siege on Jerusalem in A.D. 70? 3 1/2 years maybe?
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No. Titus' army was still outside Jerusalem shortly before Passover, AD 70. Preterists like to claim the "3.5year" or "42 month" time period when the holy city would be trodden under foot by the Gentiles (Rev 11) was fulfilled in the AD 70 destruction of Jerusalem but it simply doesn't fit the historical facts.

Not to mention the Gentiles, once they entered Jerusalem, would tread it down for FAR LONGER than three and a half years, more like centuries and almost two MILLENNIA.

Brother Blume, several times in these discussions you have downplayed the importance of knowing history. I can see why: history does not support the claims of preterism.

The Olivet prophecy of Jerusalem's desruction does not teach a 3.5 year Great Tribulation.
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Old 02-12-2015, 09:31 AM
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No. Titus' army was still outside Jerusalem shortly before Passover, AD 70. Preterists like to claim the "3.5year" or "42 month" time period when the holy city would be trodden under foot by the Gentiles (Rev 11) was fulfilled in the AD 70 destruction of Jerusalem but it simply doesn't fit the historical facts.
That's not the time period where 3.5 years occurred. The siege itself lasted 3.5 years.

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Not to mention the Gentiles, once they entered Jerusalem, would tread it down for FAR LONGER than three and a half years, more like centuries and almost two MILLENNIA.
Jerusalem was trodden down in that short time period since it was razed the round. You can'd tread it down any more than razing it to the ground. But Revelation actually stated the time period.
Revelation 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
How much plainer does it have to get?

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Brother Blume, several times in these discussions you have downplayed the importance of knowing history. I can see why: history does not support the claims of preterism.
Wrong. Misrepresentation. I rarely use history since BIBLE is the only solid ground, but I have used it TWO TIMES recently, and then get accused by Aquila that I stand on history like futurists stand on newspapers today.

So, your post is like the mourners who complain I am dancing, and Aquila's post is like the dancers who complain when I mourn.


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The Olivet prophecy of Jerusalem's desruction does not teach a 3.5 year Great Tribulation.
I never said it did! Really,m you need to read more carefully. You've done this over and over again. Goodsamaritan asked how long the siege lasted. I said he was correct in saying 3.5 years.

Just google "siege lasted three and a half years" in QUOTES beside the word Jerusalem outside the quotes (or other combinations of similar words related to the issue) and see for yourself.
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