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Old 02-12-2015, 02:21 PM
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Re: Stan Mitchell's Church Gay Inclusive?

"I think you missed the point."

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I got the point and showed how it is in error. All you can say about homosexuality boils down to your personal feelings and judgments about the matter.

For me, it boils down to "what saith God?"

Can you see the point I am trying to make here? If there is a dichotomy between "love" and God's commands, the ONLY MORAL AUTHORITY LEFT is personal opinion and feelings... relativism.
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Re: Stan Mitchell's Church Gay Inclusive?

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"I think you missed the point."

lol
I got the point and showed how it is in error. All you can say about homosexuality boils down to your personal feelings and judgments about the matter.

For me, it boils down to "what saith God?"

Can you see the point I am trying to make here? If there is a dichotomy between "love" and God's commands, the ONLY MORAL AUTHORITY LEFT is personal opinion and feelings... relativism.
If one has "faith" in the Scriptures there is another moral authority. Being personally led of the Spirit.
John 14:26
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.
Living a life walking in the Spirit, experiencing spiritual union with the LORD Himself through His abiding Spirit, is superior than the ancient constitutions of ancient Israel. They didn't have the Spirit abiding in them to lead them and guide them personally. The very same Spirit that rested on Jesus to proclaim liberty to the captives, the very same Spirit that was in Jesus whom He tells us will teach us all things, the very same Spirit that was poured out at Pentecost. The very same Spirit that inspired the Apostles, healed the sick, raised the dead, inspired the Scriptures, and delivered the demon possessed is... abiding in our very being. He can, and does, speak to our inner man and guides us in all things if we learn how to hear Him and we allow Him to guide us. Living in the Spirit is life! Living in the Spirit is freedom! It takes faith to live it and hear it... and it takes faith to believe when one is being guided by the Spirit, especially if the Spirit takes them in a direction that is not exactly what tradition would require or expect. But that's life in the Spirit as opposed to bondage under law. Liberty.

So many will often say, "Moses wrote thusly...", or "The prophet wrote...", or "Jesus said...", or "Paul wrote...". I know what they wrote and said, and the contexts of their statements. What I want to know is... What is the Spirit telling you personally???
2 Peter 1:19-21 (ESV)
19 And we have the prophetic word more fully confirmed, to which you will do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts, 20 knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone's own interpretation. 21 For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
The Spirit still speaks to us today. He who has an ear, let him hear.

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