Harold Hoffman attacks Jim Kilgore

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by CC1

I appreciate this post from a church member but have to question you on one thing. You seem to suggest that JK and the church are still holding on to the clothesline legalism of the UPC, that the reason the church looks different is just because there are so many new members. This suggests you think that JK will still preach and uphold the clothesline standards of the UPC and that over time these new saints will "line up"with the women giving up wearing makeup, cutting their hair, jewelry, pants, etc. Can you confirm this is what you were inferring? If so I think you are very, very wrong in that regard. Those "standards" are not biblical and cannot be justified and I don't think JK will do so.

The standards are Biblical but they are not holding them up. like young Kilgore but he ain't preaching what his Dad did.

[houstonupci]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

The standards are Biblical but they are not holding them up. like young Kilgore but he ain't preaching what his Dad did.

I'll just repeat what I said prior, which is that JK teaches Biblical principles of modesty and holy living.

I don't know how well you knew elder JK, but I have heard him preach MANY times, and I can say without hesitation that JK preaches the EXACT SAME message as elder JK did. I would also like to know how many messages you've heard the younger JK teach in the past 5-10 years. My guess would be that it's not enough to make any sort of hypothesis about his doctrine or beliefs.

Like I said in my initial post, elder JK stood in front of our church congregation a few months before he passed and said "I stand behind this church" and "I stand behind my son." In my opinion, that completely ends this discussion.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by houstonupci

I'll just repeat what I said prior, which is that JK teaches Biblical principles of modesty and holy living.

I don't know how well you knew elder JK, but I have heard him preach MANY times, and I can say without hesitation that JK preaches the EXACT SAME message as elder JK did. I would also like to know how many messages you've heard the younger JK teach in the past 5-10 years. My guess would be that it's not enough to make any sort of hypothesis about his doctrine or beliefs.

Like I said in my initial post, elder JK stood in front of our church congregation a few months before he passed and said "I stand behind this church" and "I stand behind my son." In my opinion, that completely ends this discussion.

Elder Kilgore preached against women cutting their hair, makeup, etc. you know he did. Do they are NOT preaching the same.