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03-31-2015, 05:49 AM
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Re: A Cult vs. A Church
Any group that veers from the teachings and practice of the Apostles is a cult.
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03-31-2015, 08:47 AM
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Re: A Cult vs. A Church
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Any group that veers from the teachings and practice of the Apostles is a cult.
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That's a little vague, Beloved. That's waiting for all those "legalists" to call
traditionalists "LEGALISTS"! Or to ask: "Is it a heaven or hell issue if.....?"
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03-31-2015, 04:49 PM
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Re: A Cult vs. A Church
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That's a little vague, Beloved. That's waiting for all those "legalists" to call
traditionalists "LEGALISTS"! Or to ask: "Is it a heaven or hell issue if.....?"
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To get specific would take all day or longer.
Here is a very general statement.
No 1 Bible based cult.
Catholic Church
No 2 Bible based cult.
Evangelical Protestant Church
These are the largest. A great number of Pentecostal, Charismatic and Apostolic Churches are cults in the sense they dont teach truth in all aspects.
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03-31-2015, 05:05 PM
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Re: A Cult vs. A Church
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
To get specific would take all day or longer.
Here is a very general statement.
No 1 Bible based cult.
Catholic Church
No 2 Bible based cult.
Evangelical Protestant Church
These are the largest. A great number of Pentecostal, Charismatic and Apostolic Churches are cults in the sense they dont teach truth in all aspects.
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Who does teach the truth in all aspect?
None that I know of and I have looked for a long time
How would you know if a church is worshipping in truth?
For sure they would be doing the same miracles as the first century church
But not the dog and pony show stuff we see on TV but real miracles of terminal diseases being cured and blind persons being made to see without medical intervention
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03-31-2015, 08:10 PM
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Re: A Cult vs. A Church
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Originally Posted by Livelystone
Who does teach the truth in all aspect?
None that I know of and I have looked for a long time
How would you know if a church is worshipping in truth?
For sure they would be doing the same miracles as the first century church
But not the dog and pony show stuff we see on TV but real miracles of terminal diseases being cured and blind persons being made to see without medical intervention
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The Church of the Lord Jesus teaches "the truth in all aspects".
It's good that you are looking: but don't be pulling as you go! The denoms are
causing us (the Church) to pull; and we are pulling away from each other
instead of allowing the Spirit to DRAW us together. Each member of the body
has something to contribute: and we should be spiritual enough to "...take
forth the precious from the vile...", and become the Lord's mouthpiece.
Instead, we seem to be sounding our own trumpet.
"Come, and let us reason together..."
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04-01-2015, 05:29 PM
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Re: A Cult vs. A Church
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Originally Posted by thephnxman
The Church of the Lord Jesus teaches "the truth in all aspects".
It's good that you are looking: but don't be pulling as you go! The denoms are
causing us (the Church) to pull; and we are pulling away from each other
instead of allowing the Spirit to DRAW us together. Each member of the body
has something to contribute: and we should be spiritual enough to "...take
forth the precious from the vile...", and become the Lord's mouthpiece.
Instead, we seem to be sounding our own trumpet.
"Come, and let us reason together..."
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I agree but to a point
God does not go to church, If He is there he arrived in the hearts of those in attendance.
Therefore when I walk in to a new place He should already be there....... if so I will enjoy the fellowship with like-minded brothers and sisters
On the other hand if it takes me showing up in a church for God to appear there, I am leaving and taking Him with me.
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04-01-2015, 07:37 PM
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Re: A Cult vs. A Church
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Originally Posted by thephnxman
The Church of the Lord Jesus teaches "the truth in all aspects".
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Very powerful statement. All churches say that.
Quote:
Originally Posted by thephnxman
It's good that you are looking: but don't be pulling as you go! The denoms are
causing us (the Church) to pull; and we are pulling away from each other
instead of allowing the Spirit to DRAW us together. Each member of the body
has something to contribute: and we should be spiritual enough to "...take
forth the precious from the vile...", and become the Lord's mouthpiece.
Instead, we seem to be sounding our own trumpet.
"Come, and let us reason together..."
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AMEN to that!
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Philippians 2:12 - ...Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling
Ephesians 4:5 - One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism
1 Corinthians 1:10 - Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith ...
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04-01-2015, 10:53 AM
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Re: A Cult vs. A Church
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
To get specific would take all day or longer.
Here is a very general statement.
No 1 Bible based cult.
Catholic Church
No 2 Bible based cult.
Evangelical Protestant Church
These are the largest. A great number of Pentecostal, Charismatic and Apostolic Churches are cults in the sense they dont teach truth in all aspects.
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I disagree with your examples of cults.
The Branch Davidians were a cult.
The Warren Jeffs followers are a cult.
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03-31-2015, 06:50 PM
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Re: A Cult vs. A Church
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Any group that veers from the teachings and practice of the Apostles is a cult.
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That is very vague.
I would say any group that practices and preaches non-biblical opinions and that also forces, pressures people in believing those non-biblical opinion.
Remember God gave you the Holy Ghost too. Not just them.
I actually think cults exists because somehow we were lead to believe (and some still do) that we need to follow one imperfect man to the promise land.
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Philippians 2:12 - ...Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling
Ephesians 4:5 - One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism
1 Corinthians 1:10 - Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith ...
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