An Appreciation Thread for Billy Graham

[Bishop1]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

I can't accept your small mindedness when it comes to what God can or cannot do. If the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ is preached and folks place their faith in Jesus Christ for salvation as a result, I believe there is power in the preaching of the cross. I'm sorry that you don't. It's too bad that God won't allow you to be God, eh? He is very capable of leading those who have truly come to Him into a lasting relationship that results in a fruitful life in the Spirit.

Hey Truelley Blessednessed ;

Elder Means spoke highly of youall
at breakfast last Sunday morning -


Bishop1

[RevDWW]

Can anyone take a stab at reconciling this set of verses ?
Were the Samaritans saved before they received the Holy Ghost?

Acts 8:12 - 15 (KJV) 12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.
14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:

Romans 8:9 (KJV) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Does the Spirit dwell in us before we are filled with it?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

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Does the Spirit dwell in us before we are filled with it?

The Holy Spirit comes into our heart to dwell at salvation/regeneration.
We could say that Jesus comes into our heart as the Holy Ghost.
After we are saved or born again, we are encouraged to be filled with the Spirit.
The Apostles and others were "saved" and their names were recorded in Heaven. Then on the Day of Pentecost they were "filled" with the Spirit. Peter was there among those "filled" with the Spirit on Pentecost Sunday in A.D. 30 but he was "filled" again in Acts 4:8 and filled again in Acts 4:32-32. Before his being filled with the Spirit or baptized in the Spirit on the day of Pentecost, he was a called minister and apostle of Jesus and empowered to work miracles in Jesus' name. When he was filled with the Spirit in Acts 2 he spoke with tongues. When he was filled with the Spirit in Acts 4:8 he spoke the Word of God with boldness. When he was filled with the Spirit he spoke the Word of God with boldness.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

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Does the Spirit dwell in us before we are filled with it?

It??

Is the Spirit (Holy Spirit, Spirit of Jesus Christ, Christ in you, Spirit of God) an it or a ?
If the Holy Ghost is God, wouldn't you call Him by a personal pronoun like He or Him? We don't refer to Jesus as it, nor do we refer to our Heavenly Father as it.

[Truly Blessed]

Originally Posted by Sam

It??

Is the Spirit (Holy Spirit, Spirit of Jesus Christ, Christ in you, Spirit of God) an it or a ?
If the Holy Ghost is God, wouldn't you call Him by a personal pronoun like He or Him? We don't refer to Jesus as it, nor do we refer to our Heavenly Father as it.

When the Holy Ghost is reduced to nothing more than a tongue talking experience than it's easier to think of the Holy Ghost as an "it".

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

When the Holy Ghost is reduced to nothing more than a tongue talking experience than it's easier to think of the Holy Ghost as an "it".

I starting to see how many call the HS an it ... it's prevalent.

I wonder if God knows he's considered an IT... and if he does, does he mind being called an IT?

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Sam

It??

Is the Spirit (Holy Spirit, Spirit of Jesus Christ, Christ in you, Spirit of God) an it or a ?
If the Holy Ghost is God, wouldn't you call Him by a personal pronoun like He or Him? We don't refer to Jesus as it, nor do we refer to our Heavenly Father as it.

Originally Posted by Ronzo

I wonder if God knows he's considered an IT... and if he does, does he mind being called an IT?

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

When the Holy Ghost is reduced to nothing more than a tongue talking experience than it's easier to think of the Holy Ghost as an "it".

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I starting to see how many call the HS an it ... it's prevalent.

What are you guys trying to say? If the Holy Spirit is a "he" and not an "it", does that mean the Holy Spirit is

















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a PERSON????

(By the way, if it makes you feel any better, I've heard lots of trinnies call the HS "it", too!)

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

When the Holy Ghost is reduced to nothing more than a tongue talking experience than it's easier to think of the Holy Ghost as an "it".

Where did you get that from what I asked? The Holy Ghost, the Spirit that raised Christ from the dead, the manifest presence of God, the power to overcome the flesh, the fuel to rocket us to meet Jesus in the air, is way more than just the one evidence of speaking in tongues.

Doesn't Romans state that we are none of His if His Spirit doesn't dwell in us?

Doesn't it appear in Acts 8 that even thought they believed in the power of Jesus name and were baptized into it, they were not filled with the Holy Ghost until Peter and John came and laid hands on them?

Were they His if His Spirit had not indwelled them yet? Is Paul not stating the truth in his letter to the Romans?

Doesn't the word state "Christ IN you, the hope of glory"?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

When the Holy Ghost is reduced to nothing more than a tongue talking experience than it's easier to think of the Holy Ghost as an "it".

Crucify Paul HE said the Spirit ITSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rom.8:26