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07-19-2015, 09:54 PM
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Re: Churches in Oregon
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Originally Posted by CC1
I am not with a group. Our church is independent.
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Thank you, I will take that as a no.
Does it have fellowship with other independents across the country?
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07-19-2015, 10:08 PM
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Re: Churches in Oregon
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Thank you, I will take that as a no.
Does it have fellowship with other independents across the country?
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We are not in fellowship with any groups. With only a few exceptions we go through the bible book by book, chapter by chapter, and verse by verse each week so don't bring in outside speakers or for that matter guest singers.
It is not that we don't approve of or like other groups. In fact something we are having to deal with now is that because of the churches tremendous growth (from a handful of people to averaging around 1,600 per weekend over four services in six yearsI) we have a lot of groups and ministries that want to "partner" with our church.
We aim to remain focused on "Authentic Worship, Authentic Community, and Authentic Community Service" Going through the bible word for word, mid week Life Groups, Experience University, 5000 Ministry (we feed 150-200 homeless people a hot breakfast every Saturday and Sunday morning in the park), BAR ministry (on a weekend night setting up outside bars and offering hot coffee and hot dogs to help sober people up, support for various foreign missions and three domestic churches the pastoral team picked out that are in the northeast and largely unchurched areas.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-19-2015, 10:14 PM
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Re: Churches in Oregon
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Originally Posted by CC1
We are not in fellowship with any groups. With only a few exceptions we go through the bible book by book, chapter by chapter, and verse by verse each week so don't bring in outside speakers or for that matter guest singers.
It is not that we don't approve of or like other groups. In fact something we are having to deal with now is that because of the churches tremendous growth (from a handful of people to averaging around 1,600 per weekend over four services in six yearsI) we have a lot of groups and ministries that want to "partner" with our church.
We aim to remain focused on "Authentic Worship, Authentic Community, and Authentic Community Service" Going through the bible word for word, mid week Life Groups, Experience University, 5000 Ministry (we feed 150-200 homeless people a hot breakfast every Saturday and Sunday morning in the park), BAR ministry (on a weekend night setting up outside bars and offering hot coffee and hot dogs to help sober people up, support for various foreign missions and three domestic churches the pastoral team picked out that are in the northeast and largely unchurched areas.
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Thank you for your answer, but could you clarify your churches definition of "authentic?"
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
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07-19-2015, 11:47 PM
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Re: Churches in Oregon
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Thank you for your answer, but could you clarify your churches definition of "authentic?"
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Real or genuine.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-20-2015, 08:30 AM
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Re: Churches in Oregon
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Real or genuine.
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Again thank you for the explanation.
What is the difference between what your church defines real, genuine, and authentic worship, community, and community service, compared to an "old time" Apostolic or UPCI church?
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
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07-20-2015, 09:42 AM
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Re: Churches in Oregon
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Again thank you for the explanation.
What is the difference between what your church defines real, genuine, and authentic worship, community, and community service, compared to an "old time" Apostolic or UPCI church?
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It is not a slam towards any church group. Just an affirmation that we want to be transparent, real and honest in our worship to God. We want to be real with each other. Not putting on some kind of "church" face and then being different the rest of the week. Not being haughty, unkind, etc, etc That is authentic community. Authentic community service is not just giving money for others to do good work but for the church itself to go out and perform community service. We mow and weed peoples yards who live in the neighborhood next to the church, assist The Journey Home (a homeless shelter / ministry), and send volunteers to other community service projects.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-20-2015, 10:24 AM
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Re: Churches in Oregon
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Originally Posted by CC1
It is not a slam towards any church group. Just an affirmation that we want to be transparent, real and honest in our worship to God. We want to be real with each other. Not putting on some kind of "church" face and then being different the rest of the week. Not being haughty, unkind, etc, etc That is authentic community. Authentic community service is not just giving money for others to do good work but for the church itself to go out and perform community service. We mow and weed peoples yards who live in the neighborhood next to the church, assist The Journey Home (a homeless shelter / ministry), and send volunteers to other community service projects.
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Thank you, you are just telling people that you are all honest and what you see is what you get.
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
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07-22-2015, 02:56 PM
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Re: Churches in Oregon
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Hello! 
Well, would you like to explain what you are looking for in a One God Church?
What criteria does it need to meet with your standard?
What would expect out of the pastor?
What does everyone need to do to make you feel comfortable?  |
After reading this I'd say one like CC1's church sounds about right.
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07-22-2015, 02:58 PM
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Re: Churches in Oregon
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Originally Posted by CC1
It is not a slam towards any church group. Just an affirmation that we want to be transparent, real and honest in our worship to God. We want to be real with each other. Not putting on some kind of "church" face and then being different the rest of the week. Not being haughty, unkind, etc, etc That is authentic community. Authentic community service is not just giving money for others to do good work but for the church itself to go out and perform community service. We mow and weed peoples yards who live in the neighborhood next to the church, assist The Journey Home (a homeless shelter / ministry), and send volunteers to other community service projects.
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Ok, come on here....sounds too Christ like to be true
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07-22-2015, 03:02 PM
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Re: Churches in Oregon
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Originally Posted by CC1
It is not a slam towards any church group. Just an affirmation that we want to be transparent, real and honest in our worship to God. We want to be real with each other. Not putting on some kind of "church" face and then being different the rest of the week. Not being haughty, unkind, etc, etc That is authentic community. Authentic community service is not just giving money for others to do good work but for the church itself to go out and perform community service. We mow and weed peoples yards who live in the neighborhood next to the church, assist The Journey Home (a homeless shelter / ministry), and send volunteers to other community service projects.
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You say you're independent, what's your method of Church government? I'm guessing that just one person and a group of "yes" men didn't come up with these methods. Seriously it sounds really great! Where are you located??
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