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Old 06-02-2007, 02:41 PM
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This is the crux of the matter, "what on earth is God trying to accomplish". Why created a vast array of humanity for the "trials and tribulations of this life". Why continue to allow humans to be born if the majority will end up in torment?
What you are saying is Man did not choose to fall. God created them intentionally to fall, sin and evil to exist

Atheists will also question the existence of God based on the same idea that if He is a loving God (as though that is all He is) why allow such suffering now? Your own argument sort of works against you.
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What you are saying is Man did not choose to fall. God created them intentionally to fall, sin and evil to exist

Atheists will also question the existence of God based on the same idea that if He is a loving God (as though that is all He is) why allow such suffering now? Your own argument sort of works against you.
I was simply posing the question: What is the purpose of the trials and tribulations of man on the earth? I have never suggested that He is loving only. Rather that His love and His severity serve the same purpose, similar to a parent's love and discipline for their child. And that would point toward the ultimate good of his (children) creation.
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I was simply posing the question: What is the purpose of the trials and tribulations of man on the earth? I have never suggested that He is loving only. Rather that His love and His severity serve the same purpose, similar to a parent's love and discipline for their child. And that would point toward the ultimate good of his (children) creation.
But he does not claim everyone as his Children.

8: That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. Rom. 9:8
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I was simply posing the question: What is the purpose of the trials and tribulations of man on the earth? I have never suggested that He is loving only. Rather that His love and His severity serve the same purpose, similar to a parent's love and discipline for their child. And that would point toward the ultimate good of his (children) creation.
But didn't you before suggest that? I am asking, if He is a loving God, why allow the suffering? Why allow an innocent child to be raped? See the questions can fly left and right when we go outside the word and muse philosophical
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