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06-02-2007, 08:17 PM
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crakjak
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Originally Posted by Thad
Crajak
those were CPs own statements when he was interivewed
have you seen his website ?
I cannot believe you agree with this ! what a shocker
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06-02-2007, 08:21 PM
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There are as many versions of UR as there are versions in OP.
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CJ if all are saved then why did Peter tell the Jews to repent?
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06-02-2007, 11:59 PM
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crakjak
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
CJ if all are saved then why did Peter tell the Jews to repent?
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Peter preached, producing faith in the hearts of the hearers, repentance is the next step in the process of entering into the life that Jesus purchased with His blood.
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06-03-2007, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by crakjak
Peter preached, producing faith in the hearts of the hearers, repentance is the next step in the process of entering into the life that Jesus purchased with His blood.
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CJ then how are ALL 100% of mankind saved if they need to HEAR a preacher to have faith PRODUCED in their hearts?
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
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06-03-2007, 12:20 AM
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crakjak
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
CJ then how are ALL 100% of mankind saved if they need to HEAR a preacher to have faith PRODUCED in their hearts?
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I understand where you are coming from, however I do not believe that God relegated the eternal destiny of mankind solely into the hands of men (preachers), though ministers do participate in the work of the kingdom.
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06-03-2007, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by crakjak
I understand where you are coming from, however I do not believe that God relegated the eternal destiny of mankind solely into the hands of men (preachers), though ministers do participate in the work of the kingdom.
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Rom 10:14-17 "How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."
CJ, that is pretty simple but please explain this scripture in realation to your doctrine.
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
www.OnTimeJournal.com
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06-03-2007, 12:48 AM
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crakjak
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Rom 10:14-17 "How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."
CJ, that is pretty simple but please explain this scripture in realation to your doctrine.
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This is a very powerful verse of scripture you have presented, which tells us an individual must hear the "good news" in order to enter into the life of Christ. I believe all will hear eventually.
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