Why do we need a solution? They are here, their kids become citizens...let's just do a better job of keeping out other illegals from all countries. Let's fix our borders and pressure Mexico to clean up it's act
Why even opine then Prax ????.....this premise of this thread revolves around an amnesty and PP's desire to deport all illegals .....
Why even opine then Prax ????.....this premise of this thread revolves around an amnesty and PP's desire for deporting all illegals .....
And I addressed the amnesty issue or the issue of making them legal. I didn't see that his initial thread was about deporting them, but I don't favor deporting them.
However we do need to do something about businesses hiring illegals because the more they see they can do it the less they are going to hire citizens
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And I addressed the amnesty issue or the issue of making them legal. I didn't see that his initial thread was about deporting them, but I don't favor deporting them.
However we do need to do something about businesses hiring illegals because the more they see they can do it the less they are going to hire citizens
Yet you do not think we need to address those that are here w/ or w/o a job thanks to your enforcement ...
The most realistic solution is a flexible program of “earned adjustment,” often referred to as “earned legalization.” A flexible earned adjustment program requires undocumented immigrants to earn legal status by demonstrating past work history, paying significant fines, undergoing rigorous security and background checks, learning English and American civics, and making good on any back taxes, among other criteria. Undocumented immigrants who successfully jump through all of these hoops do not gain preferential treatment over others who have been waiting for their green cards. Rather, they simply earn the opportunity to apply for permanent residence and to get in line behind those who applied before them.
Contrary to the claims of some opponents, earned legalization is not an “amnesty.” By definition, amnesty is an automatic pardon, or free pass, granted to a group of people who do not have to do anything in return and are not penalized in any way for their past actions. Earned legalization, on the other hand, would impose stringent requirements and substantial penalties, while allowing the undocumented population to come clean with the U.S. government, maintain family and community ties, and continue fulfilling essential roles
in our national economy.
The most realistic solution is a flexible program of “earned adjustment,” often referred to as “earned legalization.” A flexible earned adjustment program requires undocumented immigrants to earn legal status by demonstrating past work history, paying significant fines, undergoing rigorous security and background checks, learning English and American civics, and making good on any back taxes, among other criteria. Undocumented immigrants who successfully jump through all of these hoops do not gain preferential treatment over others who have been waiting for their green cards. Rather, they simply earn the opportunity to apply for permanent residence and to get in line behind those who applied before them.
Contrary to the claims of some opponents, earned legalization is not an “amnesty.” By definition, amnesty is an automatic pardon, or free pass, granted to a group of people who do not have to do anything in return and are not penalized in any way for their past actions. Earned legalization, on the other hand, would impose stringent requirements and substantial penalties, while allowing the undocumented population to come clean with the U.S. government, maintain family and community ties, and continue fulfilling essential roles
in our national economy.
It should not though be any faster than someone that might try to emmigrate here legally and then apply for citizenship
Thanks for the post
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Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
And I addressed the amnesty issue or the issue of making them legal. I didn't see that his initial thread was about deporting them, but I don't favor deporting them.
However we do need to do something about businesses hiring illegals because the more they see they can do it the less they are going to hire citizens
Prax in certain pockets (like Los Angles) this is true. there are people who cannot get low wage entry level jobs that they want because of illegal immagration. however, it is a misconception that this is common everywhere. in fact the opposite is true in many areas.
also US unemployment is less than 5% right now. it isnt like we have a job shortage.
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Prax in certain pockets (like Los Angles) this is true. there are people who cannot get low wage entry level jobs that they want because of illegal immagration. however, it is a misconception that this is common everywhere. in fact the opposite is true in many areas.
also US unemployment is less than 5% right now. it isnt like we have a job shortage.
Right, however because Illegal immigration continues to grow and many illegals ARE looking for job markets outside of Southern California and other border states...well you get the picture right?
BTW US unemployment figures are based on those recently out of work or employed and not those that have been unemployed for an extended period from what I have heard
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Right, however because Illegal immigration continues to grow and many illegals ARE looking for job markets outside of Southern California and other border states...well you get the picture right?
BTW US unemployment figures are based on those recently out of work or employed and not those that have been unemployed for an extended period from what I have heard
Say it w/ me ... President Bush's administration has UNEMPLOYMENT LEVELS AT AN ALL TIME LOW!!!
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