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10-10-2015, 01:28 PM
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Re: Some standing here
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My point is I believe EXACTLY the description of our Lord Jesus as depicted in Rev. 19, to the letter.
To try to make it say something other than we read is weakening the description of His great power imposed upon the Gentiles of planet earth. |
Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and HE TREADETH THE WINEPRESS of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
So...He will be stomping in a wine press?
Like standing it in and stomping around in a wine press?
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10-10-2015, 02:19 PM
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Re: Some standing here
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Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and HE TREADETH THE WINEPRESS of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
So...He will be stomping in a wine press?
Like standing it in and stomping around in a wine press?
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Are you attempting to weaken, and denegrate the description of the wrath of God in the verse Bowas?
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10-10-2015, 02:56 PM
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Re: Some standing here
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Are you attempting to weaken, and denegrate the description of the wrath of God in the verse Bowas?
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What kind of a question is that? You say it is a literal sword and you said, "My point is I believe EXACTLY the description of our Lord Jesus as depicted in Rev. 19, to the letter."
I attempt to weaken nothing but ask for your clarification on the winepress. You say it is a literal sword, so I want your literal description of the winepress.
You may not realize it Sean, but you have no consistent standard by which you measure your interpretations which is in danger of private interpretations which the Apostles knew not about.
So is the winepress a winepress or represent something other than a winepress, and how might you make that determination?
Thank you for your reply.
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10-10-2015, 03:12 PM
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Re: Some standing here
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What kind of a question is that? You say it is a literal sword and you said, "My point is I believe EXACTLY the description of our Lord Jesus as depicted in Rev. 19, to the letter."
I attempt to weaken nothing but ask for your clarification on the winepress. You say it is a literal sword, so I want your literal description of the winepress.
You may not realize it Sean, but you have no consistent standard by which you measure your interpretations which is in danger of private interpretations which the Apostles knew not about.
So is the winepress a winepress or represent something other than a winepress, and how might you make that determination?
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C'mon Bowas, the wine press crushes grapes to smitherines....
Jesus crushes sinners to smitherines when He returns(with a sword)....
You made fun of the analogy of God's wrath in the Book of Revelation.....
Cheap shot at the power/judgement of God, bro.
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10-10-2015, 05:10 PM
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Re: Some standing here
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C'mon Bowas, the wine press crushes grapes to smitherines....
Jesus crushes sinners to smitherines when He returns(with a sword)....
You made fun of the analogy of God's wrath in the Book of Revelation.....
Cheap shot at the power/judgement of God, bro.
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Either you are missing my point, or intentionally ignoring it.
Let me put it in simpler terms.
According to the scripture you presented, is He going to put the sinners in a winepress and stomp on them?
Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and HE TREADETH THE WINEPRESS of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
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10-11-2015, 12:08 PM
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Re: Some standing here
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Either you are missing my point, or intentionally ignoring it.
Let me put it in simpler terms.
According to the scripture you presented, is He going to put the sinners in a winepress and stomp on them?
Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and HE TREADETH THE WINEPRESS of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. |
His wrath is compared to a winepress, Bowas, and unrighteous man are compared to the grapes being stomped under the pressers feet..
Did you see your previous posts, and how you denegrated the verses with sarcasm?
Your preterist ideas now give you the "liberty" to attack and denegrate the verses to the point that a minor analogy in a verse, becomes MASS metaphors.
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10-11-2015, 12:19 PM
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Re: Some standing here
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His wrath is compared to a winepress, Bowas, and unrighteous man are compared to the grapes being stomped under the pressers feet..
Did you see your previous posts, and how you denegrated the verses with sarcasm?
Your preterist ideas give you the 'liberty" to attack the verses to the point that a minor analogy in a verse, becomes MASS metaphors.
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I am just trying to find the consistency of your thought. In the same verse that mentions the winepress, which seems you take metaphorically also mentions a sword coming out of His mouth, which you insist is literally.
I am just trying to understand how you pick and choose, seemingly at will or randomly, what you see as literal and what you see as a metaphor.
Seems preterists look elsewhere for a term, word of or phrase to see if it has been used before, and what it meant, using scripture as the arbiter.
No liberty that I can see from the preterist, but appears to be mucho liberty by some.
So explain if you will,how or why is the sword literal and the winepress is a metaphor?
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10-11-2015, 07:47 PM
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Re: Some standing here
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Originally Posted by Sean
His wrath is compared to a winepress, Bowas, and unrighteous man are compared to the grapes being stomped under the pressers feet..
Did you see your previous posts, and how you denegrated the verses with sarcasm?
Your preterist ideas now give you the "liberty" to attack and denegrate the verses to the point that a minor analogy in a verse, becomes MASS metaphors.
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His wrath is compared to a winepress but He has a literally two edged sharp sword coming out of His mouth? You are Retard Theory Man 
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10-12-2015, 12:14 AM
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Re: Some standing here
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Originally Posted by Sean
His wrath is compared to a winepress, Bowas, and unrighteous man are compared to the grapes being stomped under the pressers feet..
Did you see your previous posts, and how you denegrated the verses with sarcasm?
Your preterist ideas now give you the "liberty" to attack and denegrate the verses to the point that a minor analogy in a verse, becomes MASS metaphors.
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The winepress is not literal but a real sword is coming out of Jesus' mouth?
Mmkay
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