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11-04-2015, 07:37 PM
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
So u do not believe Micah 1:6-7 was fulfilled in 722 bc concerning Samaria?
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11-04-2015, 07:42 PM
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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So u do not believe Micah 1:6-7 was fulfilled in 722 bc concerning Samaria?
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Yes.
6. Samaria's punishment is mentioned first, as it was to fall before Jerusalem.
as an heap of the field--( Micah 3:12 ). Such a heap of stones and rubbish as is gathered out of fields, to clear them ( Hosea 12:11 ). Palestine is of a soil abounding in stones, which are gathered out before the vines are planted ( Isaiah 5:2 ).
as plantings of a vineyard--as a place where vines are planted. Vineyards were cultivated on the sides of hills exposed to the sun. The hill on which Samaria was built by Omri, had been, doubtless, planted with vines originally; now it is to be reduced again to its original state ( 1 Kings 16:24 ).
pour down--dash down the stones of the city into the valley beneath. A graphic picture of the present appearance of the ruins, which is as though "the buildings of the ancient city had been thrown down from the brow of the hill" [Scottish Mission of Inquiry, pp. 293,294].
discover the foundations--destroy it so utterly as to lay bare its foundations ( Ezekiel 13:14 ). Samaria was destroyed by Shalmaneser.
7. all the hires--the wealth which Israel boasted of receiving from her idols as the "rewards" or "hire" for worshipping them ( Hosea 2:5 Hosea 2:12 ).
idols . . . will I . . . desolate--that is, give them up to the foe to strip off the silver and gold with which they are overlaid.
she gathered it of the hire of an harlot, and they shall return to the hire of an harlot--Israel gathered (made for herself) her idols from the gold and silver received from false gods, as she thought, the "hire" of her worshipping them; and they shall again become what they had been before, the hire of spiritual harlotry, that is, the prosperity of the foe, who also being worshippers of idols will ascribe the acquisition to their idols [MAURER]. GROTIUS explains it, The offerings sent to Israel's temple by the Assyrians, whose idolatry Israel adopted, shall go back to the Assyrians, her teachers in idolatry, as the hire or fee for having taught it. The image of a harlot's hire for the supposed temporal reward of spiritual fornication, is more common in Scripture ( Hosea 9:1 ).
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11-04-2015, 07:55 PM
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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And do you believe at its fulfillment when He came down and treaded on the high places of the earth, that the mountains literally melted under him, and that the valleys literally split? (Like wax before a fire, and waters poured down a steep place).
And what was the high places of the earth that he walked on?
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11-04-2015, 08:08 PM
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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And do you believe at its fulfillment when He came down and treaded on the high places of the earth, that the mountains literally melted under him, and that the valleys literally split? (Like wax before a fire, and waters poured down a steep place).
And what was the high places of the earth that he walked on?
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Possibly....
3 For, behold, the Lord cometh forth out of his place, and will come down, and tread upon the high places of the earth.
4 And the mountains shall be molten under him, and the valleys shall be cleft, as wax before the fire, and as the waters that are poured down a steep place.
But it looks like the description of His 2nd coming, introduced before Chapter 4.
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11-04-2015, 08:17 PM
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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Possibly....
But it looks like the description of His 2nd coming, introduced before Chapter 4.
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Possibly and it looks like?
Thank you Mr Bible scholar you have just converted me to your eschatology...said no one EVER.
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11-04-2015, 08:55 PM
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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Yes.
6. Samaria's punishment is mentioned first, as it was to fall before Jerusalem.
as an heap of the field--( Micah 3:12 ). Such a heap of stones and rubbish as is gathered out of fields, to clear them ( Hosea 12:11 ). Palestine is of a soil abounding in stones, which are gathered out before the vines are planted ( Isaiah 5:2 ).
as plantings of a vineyard--as a place where vines are planted. Vineyards were cultivated on the sides of hills exposed to the sun. The hill on which Samaria was built by Omri, had been, doubtless, planted with vines originally; now it is to be reduced again to its original state ( 1 Kings 16:24 ).
pour down--dash down the stones of the city into the valley beneath. A graphic picture of the present appearance of the ruins, which is as though "the buildings of the ancient city had been thrown down from the brow of the hill" [Scottish Mission of Inquiry, pp. 293,294].
discover the foundations--destroy it so utterly as to lay bare its foundations ( Ezekiel 13:14 ). Samaria was destroyed by Shalmaneser.
7. all the hires--the wealth which Israel boasted of receiving from her idols as the "rewards" or "hire" for worshipping them ( Hosea 2:5 Hosea 2:12 ).
idols . . . will I . . . desolate--that is, give them up to the foe to strip off the silver and gold with which they are overlaid.
she gathered it of the hire of an harlot, and they shall return to the hire of an harlot--Israel gathered (made for herself) her idols from the gold and silver received from false gods, as she thought, the "hire" of her worshipping them; and they shall again become what they had been before, the hire of spiritual harlotry, that is, the prosperity of the foe, who also being worshippers of idols will ascribe the acquisition to their idols [MAURER]. GROTIUS explains it, The offerings sent to Israel's temple by the Assyrians, whose idolatry Israel adopted, shall go back to the Assyrians, her teachers in idolatry, as the hire or fee for having taught it. The image of a harlot's hire for the supposed temporal reward of spiritual fornication, is more common in Scripture ( Hosea 9:1 ).
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...3CHDcjJXstef_w
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11-04-2015, 08:56 PM
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
Sean, did you read this commentary in its entirety when you took it off the website?
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