Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine

shazeep · #1 11-07-2015, 08:40 AM

most of that seems possible--but kids playing with snakes and lions eating grass sure seems to be going out of its way to paint a picture of the futurist perspective.

mfblume · #2 11-07-2015, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by shazeep

most of that seems possible--but kids playing with snakes and lions eating grass sure seems to be going out of its way to paint a picture of the futurist perspective.

I disagree with the notion that animals were not carnivorous before the fall as those who believe Isaiah foretells a future non-carnivorous creation propose. So, I do not see a foretold restoration of non-carnivorous creation. No death was in the world for MAN alone at the beginning.

shag · #3 11-07-2015, 10:01 AM

I had to endure millinial futurist preaching Sun am & pm BOTH, this past weekend. Folks still going to be considered very young at age 100, and living way beyond, wolves and lambs grazing together or whatever...sun 4x as bright...lost me

shazeep · #4 11-07-2015, 10:30 AM

lol, ya--i am mostly sceered of anyone who claims to know, for sure, what much of that means. But lions and lambs do have figurative meanings that we know about, and those may explain most of it.

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I disagree with the notion that animals were not carnivorous before the fall as those who believe Isaiah foretells a future non-carnivorous creation propose. So, I do not see a foretold restoration of non-carnivorous creation. No death was in the world for MAN alone at the beginning.

so, no lions eating grass? I'm not sure how to deal with that, either--but ignoring it does not seem right. But it could still be figurative, i guess--the lion being Judah.

mfblume · #5 11-07-2015, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by shazeep

lol, ya--i am mostly sceered of anyone who claims to know, for sure, what much of that means. But lions and lambs do have figurative meanings that we know about, and those may explain most of it.
so, no lions eating grass? I'm not sure how to deal with that, either--but ignoring it does not seem right. But it could still be figurative, i guess--the lion being Judah.

Certainly not all passages are easily understood.