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Old 11-21-2015, 08:51 AM
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doing what the Good Samaritan did will save one because it is done from a pure heart, not from hope of redemption by it. But really, it is best if i just agree with you, from your pov, and say that yes, it is salvation by works, without which you are lost. Your fruit will bear this out, one way or another.
You really are out of your league with this issue. You're completely steeped in salvation by works and don't see righteousness is a gift only to those who see Christ's death as their own to be saved.

Read the new testament with a desire to learn.
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Old 11-21-2015, 09:33 AM
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You really are out of your league with this issue. You're completely steeped in salvation by works and don't see righteousness is a gift only to those who see Christ's death as their own to be saved.

Read the new testament with a desire to learn.
well, we are going through the entire NT here, day by day, so i guess we'll see
if you get any nastier though, i will quit.
5Now this is the message we have heard from Him and declare to you: God is light
3This is how we are sure that we have come to know Him: by keeping His commands.
4The one who says, "I have come to know Him," yet doesn't keep His commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5But whoever keeps His word, truly in him the love of God is perfected. This is how we know we are in Him:
6The one who says he remains in Him should walk just as He walked.
7Dear friends, I am not writing you a new command but an old command that you have had from the beginning. The old command is the message you have heard.
11But the one who hates his brother is in the darkness, walks in the darkness, and doesn't know where he's going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes.
24What you have heard from the beginning must remain in you. If what you have heard from the beginning remains in you, then you will remain in the Son and in the Father.(Love first)
27The anointing you received from Him remains in you, and you don't need anyone to teach you. Instead, His anointing teaches you about all things and is true and is not a lie; just as He has taught you, remain in Him.
(when you find the truth, Love, no lawyer can revert you back to legal knowledge)
29If you know that He is righteous, you know this as well: Everyone who does what is right has been born of Him.
yikes i guess you guys pretty much have to skip 1John entirely, huh?
1Look at how great a love the Father has given us

3And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself
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