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Originally Posted by shazeep

I have been doing nothing but feeding you Scripture telling you that love comes first. Do you actually disbelieve most of what the Bible claims?

I have been telling you I agree, but all of that comes after the faith in Christ's death on the cross. And you said carrying the cross saves anyone in any religion, but you are not dealing with the passages in the bible that state the death of Christ as us, that moves God to make us righteous before we have a chance to love anybody, COMES FIRST. And if that is not seen in a person's life, no matter how much they carry a cross, they are lost. You will not deal with the scriptures that state this. You avoided it then and you are still avoiding them now.

You say I misinterpret a passage, and question why I noted context, and YOU STILL do not show the correct meaning in them. I am getting the drift. You won't talk about them, will you? Are you fearful you will be shown to be wrong in this? Again, do you go to church, and if so what kind of church does not teach faith in the cross FIRST is what makes us righteous?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I have been telling you I agree, but all of that comes after the faith in Christ's death on the cross. And you said carrying the cross saves anyone in any religion, but you are not dealing with the passages in the bible that state the death of Christ as us, that moves God to make us righteous before we have a chance to love anybody, COMES FIRST. And if that is not seen in a person's life, no matter how much they carry a cross, they are lost. You will not deal with the scriptures that state this. You avoided it then and you are still avoiding them now.

You say I misinterpret a passage, and question why I noted context, and YOU STILL do not show the correct meaning in them. I am getting the drift. You won't talk about them, will you? Are you fearful you will be shown to be wrong in this? Again, do you go to church?

Again, a pox on your dead church--i AM the Church. The rest of this is pretty much bunk--i answered you, you could not read it, and so you reply from that pov. Post a verse, and i will reply to it. One verse, okay? Let's not get too bogged down.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

Again, a pox on your dead church--i AM the Church. The rest of this is pretty much bunk--i answered you, you could not read it, and so you reply from that pov. Post a verse, and i will reply to it. One verse, okay? Let's not get too bogged down.

Pick a verse I posted and prove to me you're serious, because I cannot see it in you. You're stalling.

Tell you what... deal with this one, as silly as it is to say ONE VERSE.

Romans 4:6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

Verses are not meant to contain an entire thought, but are for reference sake. But anyway, let's see what you do.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Pick a verse I posted and prove to me you're serious, because I cannot see it in you. You're stalling.

Tell you what... deal with this one, as silly as it is to say ONE VERSE.

Romans 4:6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

Verses are not meant to contain an entire thought, but are for reference sake. But anyway, let's see what you do.

a perfect description of the Good Samaritan, before the incident on the road.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Pick a verse I posted and prove to me you're serious, because I cannot see it in you. You're stalling.

Tell you what... deal with this one, as silly as it is to say ONE VERSE.

Romans 4:6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

Verses are not meant to contain an entire thought, but are for reference sake. But anyway, let's see what you do.

15What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means! 16Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? 17But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you have come to obey from your heart the pattern of teaching that has now claimed your allegiance. 18You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.

"You have come to obey from your heart" so, right back to good deeds, in the end.