Does God Correct False Doctrine Through Gifts?

[mfblume]

The gifts are subject to the person pertaining them, and too susceptible to human tainting.

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by mfblume

The gifts are subject to the person pertaining them, and too susceptible to human tainting.

"And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets." (1 Cir 14:32)

So the gift of prophecy by the Spirit, just as is the gift of tongues and its
interpretation by the Spirit, is to be judged by the Office (Ministry) of the
Prophet. If the gift is subject by the "person", it is so only as it pertains to
the individual WITHHOLDING the gift, whether or not to speak or interpret!

The "tainting" would be in effect if there is no prophet (Ministry) to judge
its worthiness, or false prophets who would manipulate the interpretation:
or the Ministry is either ill-prepared or not sensitive to the Voice of the Lord.

"But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal."

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by thephnxman

"And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets." (1 Cir 14:32)

So the gift of prophecy by the Spirit, just as is the gift of tongues and its
interpretation by the Spirit, is to be judged by the Office (Ministry) of the
Prophet. If the gift is subject by the "person", it is so only as it pertains to
the individual WITHHOLDING the gift, whether or not to speak or interpret!

The "tainting" would be in effect if there is no prophet (Ministry) to judge
its worthiness, or false prophets who would manipulate the interpretation:
or the Ministry is either ill-prepared or not sensitive to the Voice of the Lord.

"But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal."

Where does the bible say a prophet judges the worthiness?

EVERYBODY judges the worthiness, not just prophets.

1 Corinthians 14:29 Two or three prophets should speak, and others should weigh carefully what is said.

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Where does the bible say a prophet judges the worthiness?
EVERYBODY judges the worthiness, not just prophets.
1 Corinthians 14:29 Two or three prophets should speak, and others should weigh carefully what is said.

"...I speak unto you, fathers..."

When there is a prophesy in the Church, or speaking in
tongues with an interpretation, the children will also be
there listening, as well as the young men; that is, those
who are not quite as adept in discernment. Should we
allow them to leave in a state of confusion when there
is a discrepancy in interpretation? Are not those who
are mature in the faith able to quench any confusion?
And has not the Ministry been called out from among
the mature in the faith?

You seem to be implying that the "prophesy" is subject
only to the person that prophesies; well, it was more than
just implied. I am stating that if that were so, then that is
where any "tainting" and any manipulation may arise. Who
do you say are the "...spirits of the prophets...", if
they are not from the persons who are prophesying: then
the prophets to whom the prophesying and "spirits" are
subject, is to the Ministry. That is how everything should
done in order...

unless they are ill-prepared or insensitive.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by thephnxman

"...I speak unto you, fathers..."

When there is a prophesy in the Church, or speaking in
tongues with an interpretation, the children will also be
there listening, as well as the young men; that is, those
who are not quite as adept in discernment. Should we
allow them to leave in a state of confusion when there
is a discrepancy in interpretation? Are not those who
are mature in the faith able to quench any confusion?
And has not the Ministry been called out from among
the mature in the faith?

You seem to be implying that the "prophesy" is subject
only to the person that prophesies; well, it was more than
just implied. I am stating that if that were so, then that is
where any "tainting" and any manipulation may arise. Who
do you say are the "...spirits of the prophets...", if
they are not from the persons who are prophesying: then
the prophets to whom the prophesying and "spirits" are
subject, is to the Ministry. That is how everything should
done in order...

unless they are ill-prepared or insensitive.

Of course others need to judge the prophecy. That is why I quoted that verse that states others judge. I was distinctly noting it is not the one prophesying alone. The reason I noted the one prophesying has the gift subject to the person is to indicate we cannot rely upon prophecies 100%, The word must coincide with what is prophesied. And others use the word to determine that.