Elephant in the room - accusation of judging

[shazeep]

If God asked me what I have to say I have a right for heaven, I would point to NOTHING IN ME nor anything I have done, but the CROSS.

yet we read "Forgive, and you will be forgiven," which suggests "don't forgive, and you won't be forgiven," so you must reconcile these two, your understanding of "nothing i need to do" and "forgive."

yes, Mike, no works, nor good deeds that you might do can get you saved, i have never denied that.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

If God asked me what I have to say I have a right for heaven, I would point to NOTHING IN ME nor anything I have done, but the CROSS.

yet we read "Forgive, and you will be forgiven," which suggests "don't forgive, and you won't be forgiven," so you must reconcile these two, your understanding of "nothing i need to do" and "forgive."

yes, Mike, no works, nor good deeds that you might do can get you saved, i have never denied that.

What have you stated here that I have not agreed with?

I forgive everyone for anything they've done to me. I forgive you for slamming me to muck and mud and tar and feathers. I forgive WII for being a muslim. Where have I indicated I have not forgiven anyone? Please elaborate.

You keep saying we can be forgiven only if we forgive. Why do you say this? What indication do you have that I have not forgiven anyone?

Do you think I am unforgiving if I say a person is lost if they do not believe Christ's death on the cross is absolutely essential for salvation? If so, that is not an issue of forgiving or not forgiving. lol. Apples and oranges.

Now, let me ask you a question.

Do you feel anyone who sincerely believes the koran's statement that Jesus did not so much as get crucified is saved while holding onto the that belief?