Elephant in the room - accusation of judging

[shazeep]

And wadr if you admit that all you can go by is what people say, then i don't get why all the resistance @ 'you accept verbal declarations as proof?'

I am saying that is as good as we humans can get from other humans about one's salvation. But I say that with the conclusion of the matter being IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT OPINIONS WE HAVE in the end. It's what God thinks. I presume no more than that.

i'm here because you have presumed much more than that, Mike. I tried the ol' "thankfully, your opinions do not seem to have actually affected the salvational state of any Catholics" and was dismissed, so if you are now saying that "All Catholics are lost" is merely an opinion then please say so.

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Originally Posted by shazeep

And wadr if you admit that all you can go by is what people say, then i don't get why all the resistance @ 'you accept verbal declarations as proof?'

I am saying that is as good as we humans can get from other humans about one's salvation. But I say that with the conclusion of the matter being IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT OPINIONS WE HAVE in the end. It's what God thinks. I presume no more than that.

i'm here because you have presumed much more than that, Mike. I tried the ol' "thankfully, your opinions do not seem to have actually affected the salvational state of any Catholics" and was dismissed, so if you are now saying that "All Catholics are lost" is merely an opinion then please say so.

Again, you words are not clear. Seriously, type out more of what's in your head and tack it on with these sorts of words.