Elephant in the room - accusation of judging

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Originally Posted by shazeep

Maybe YOU would feel superior against someone if you made statements like "all muslims are lost." But that does not enter my mind when I say that. You really do assume far too much.

if i hated you, Michael, it would serve me better to just shut up and let your daughters marry Muslims. People trapped in a superiority complex are generally in denial--and i am not immune, i struggle with this too--and as it stems from poor self-esteem, it is just a defense mechanism. So you have to overcome the denial, and understand that i am not assuming anything, as "Everyone who does not follow my doctrine is lost" tells me all i need to know, and any condescending or attacking just verifies it.

Sorry you are assuming things. That came out quite clearly when the muslim with whom I talked told me I was lost because I believe Jesus is God's Son, and you reacted as though nothing was wrong -- the very thing you accused me for in damning hysterics. .

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Sorry you are assuming things. That came out quite clearly when the muslim with whom I talked told me I was lost because I believe Jesus is God's Son, and you reacted as though nothing was wrong -- the very thing you accused me for in damning hysterics. .

i don't expect a Catholic to agree with me verbally, much less a Muslim, Mike. You went looking for division, and you found it. Congratulations. I talk to Muslims and find agreement. You are likely expecting a religion that arose when the RCC was raging to agree with the RCC in their view, when you don't even do that. So the only thing that came out clearly was your preconceptions, sorry.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

i don't expect a Catholic to agree with me verbally, much less a Muslim, Mike. You went looking for division, and you found it. Congratulations. I talk to Muslims and find agreement. You are likely expecting a religion that arose when the RCC was raging to agree with the RCC in their view, when you don't even do that. So the only thing that came out clearly was your preconceptions, sorry.

I looked for nothing. I just wanted to see if a muslim would do what you accused me of doing, and then see how you would react. You failed with flying colours.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Sorry you are assuming things. That came out quite clearly when the muslim with whom I talked told me I was lost because I believe Jesus is God's Son, and you reacted as though nothing was wrong -- the very thing you accused me for in damning hysterics. .

well, you are in a Jesus Cult, so maybe he had a point. You went to him, with an agenda, that was not reconciliation; why are you talking to Muslims, when you can't even agree with other Pentecostals?

A Muslim is naturally going to say that as a reaction to the RCC--who set up the foundations of your Jesus cult--and them advocating prayer to Mary, and even some Pents pray to Christ; where is this in Scripture?

The amazing thing, if one considers it, is that the Qur'an commands a Muslim to follow Christ, not that they have a different cultural understanding of "God has no family." You might ask yourself why you ever even deigned to contemplate "All Muslims are lost;" is it not because you need someone to be your enemy?

How is this any different than Commies, or Blacks? You cannot be blind to the progression here, surely.