Belief in god and the right to homosexuality?

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Do you believe catholics are people who believe the list of doctrines I presented or not?

that is Catholicism, Mike, and you have no more proof that those who practice it are lost than people who identify as Catholic; but at least you would be better understood.

Seriously, is there any person you consider YOUR PASTOR who guides you through the scriptures like the Bible says a pastor directs sheep, or are you against that sort of idea? With your unique definitions of terms and unique context I've never heard anyone repeat over issues, it seems you simply don't have any spiritual leadership in your life, like some kind of lone ranger theology. Is that so?

actually, the Bible suggests that the Holy Spirit be your guide, but as you are back to polishing your helmet i am not really interested in discussing it, at least on this thread. But to answer your Q, i have no interest in where you got your version of the Golden Rule, no.

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Originally Posted by shazeep

Do you believe catholics are people who believe the list of doctrines I presented or not?

that is Catholicism, Mike, and you have no more proof that those who practice it are lost than people who identify as Catholic; but at least you would be better understood.

Seriously, is there any person you consider YOUR PASTOR who guides you through the scriptures like the Bible says a pastor directs sheep, or are you against that sort of idea? With your unique definitions of terms and unique context I've never heard anyone repeat over issues, it seems you simply don't have any spiritual leadership in your life, like some kind of lone ranger theology. Is that so?

actually, the Bible suggests that the Holy Spirit be your guide, but as you are back to polishing your helmet i am not really interested in discussing it, at least on this thread. But to answer your Q, i have no interest in where you got your version of the Golden Rule, no.

A simple no would suffice.

Just trying to see why you have unique definitions of law and legalism, and no pastor would explain it perfectly. I suspect you NEVER had a pastor despite being a kid in church.

The Holy Spirit, and no human being, guides you.

No spiritual leadership in the church. Hey, you likely do not even go to a congregation anywhere, do you?

Excusing muslims and catholics for the same thing (all non muslims are lost, all non-catholics are lost) you castigate me for... when I do not even think one must be in the same denomination as me... .just believe the bible. And YOU and EVERYONE ELSE believes what YOU and EVERYONE ELSE thinks about salvation ought to be believed by everyone else.

But to deal with that statement alone, He simply was telling us to do what the law tried and failed to get us to do.... do everything to others you hoped someone would do to you.

Not sure how anyone can see the error in that.

Polishing the helmet?

lol

I am just trying to see where you are coming from. You have definitions of legalism and law that NO ONE ELSE HAS. And like I said, my definition comes from theologians of ALL stripes, unlike your private interpretation of the definition.

The Holy Spirit is our guide, and whether or not you are in the same vein of christianity I am in matters not. The same bible that speaks of the Spirit guiding also says God sets spiritual leadership in the church by the same Spirit.

Not sure what difference in the golden rule you think I have. But I see you sunk into insulting again, making this personal. All the golden rule, love, and good fruit words you spoke really are moot in this light.

But it explains why you have your unique definitions of law and legalism.

I tried to see us chat in a good discussion, but you simply won't have it.

A cross-is-not-necessary-if-one-has-agapé-love theology.... strange ideas of law and legalism... no spiritual leadership....