Belief in god and the right to homosexuality?

mfblume · #1 07-20-2016, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by shazeep

i answered them yesterday, on the other thread, Mike.

Thanks.

phareztamar · #2 07-20-2016, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Thanks.

Elder Blume,
thank you for your continued contributions to this forum. I always enjoy reading your insights. I would, however, humbly entreat you to consider your backs and forths with shazeep. you have far too much to offer: to your church, your family, and this forum, to be found so encumbered with this guy.

I testify that he has not the spirit of Christ, and is none of his. his fundamental stumbling at the cross of Jesus Christ, not to mention his ignorance of the whole counsel of God, sets him in a lonely chamber covered by the heavy veil of agape righteous blindness. You will not change him, regardless of how skillfully you present a truth to him. I think perhaps only my Lord can remove this blindness.

I'm not sure if I'm just seeing a stubborn refusal, on every fish he throws out there, to not devour it wholly, or if I'm seeing a zeal that's lost it's rudder. I think there are many on this forum who share the truths you champion. I myself share most of them. But at what point, my elder, does the great gulf between your time, effort, and frustration, and his willful blindness, become great enough to reconsider the investments of the gifts my Lord has given you? This man offers you not the respect due your office and calling. he is as the town drunkard fallen in the mud, and hollering at the mayor as he passes by.

While I enjoy some of the scriptures that come out in your tussles, believe it or not the frustration also follows for us who share this like precious faith. So, just wondering if its time and energy well spent. In your own words, "my thoughts anyway".

shazeep · #3 07-20-2016, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by phareztamar

Elder Blume,
thank you for your continued contributions to this forum. I always enjoy reading your insights. I would, however, humbly entreat you to consider your backs and forths with shazeep. you have far too much to offer: to your church, your family, and this forum, to be found so encumbered with this guy.

I testify that he has not the spirit of Christ, and is none of his. his fundamental stumbling at the cross of Jesus Christ, not to mention his ignorance of the whole counsel of God, sets him in a lonely chamber covered by the heavy veil of agape righteous blindness. You will not change him, regardless of how skillfully you present a truth to him. I think perhaps only my Lord can remove this blindness.

I'm not sure if I'm just seeing a stubborn refusal, on every fish he throws out there, to not devour it wholly, or if I'm seeing a zeal that's lost it's rudder. I think there are many on this forum who share the truths you champion. I myself share most of them. But at what point, my elder, does the great gulf between your time, effort, and frustration, and his willful blindness, become great enough to reconsider the investments of the gifts my Lord has given you? This man offers you not the respect due your office and calling. he is as the town drunkard fallen in the mud, and hollering at the mayor as he passes by.

While I enjoy some of the scriptures that come out in your tussles, believe it or not the frustration also follows for us who share this like precious faith. So, just wondering if its time and energy well spent. In your own words, "my thoughts anyway".

do you mind if i post this in another thread, as we are abusing this one? ty. moved to
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...68#post1441068

mfblume · #4 07-21-2016, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by phareztamar

Elder Blume,
thank you for your continued contributions to this forum. I always enjoy reading your insights. I would, however, humbly entreat you to consider your backs and forths with shazeep. you have far too much to offer: to your church, your family, and this forum, to be found so encumbered with this guy.

I testify that he has not the spirit of Christ, and is none of his. his fundamental stumbling at the cross of Jesus Christ, not to mention his ignorance of the whole counsel of God, sets him in a lonely chamber covered by the heavy veil of agape righteous blindness. You will not change him, regardless of how skillfully you present a truth to him. I think perhaps only my Lord can remove this blindness.

I'm not sure if I'm just seeing a stubborn refusal, on every fish he throws out there, to not devour it wholly, or if I'm seeing a zeal that's lost it's rudder. I think there are many on this forum who share the truths you champion. I myself share most of them. But at what point, my elder, does the great gulf between your time, effort, and frustration, and his willful blindness, become great enough to reconsider the investments of the gifts my Lord has given you? This man offers you not the respect due your office and calling. he is as the town drunkard fallen in the mud, and hollering at the mayor as he passes by.

While I enjoy some of the scriptures that come out in your tussles, believe it or not the frustration also follows for us who share this like precious faith. So, just wondering if its time and energy well spent. In your own words, "my thoughts anyway".

Thanks!

It was more or less time I had to spare and just for something to do, which also helps me learn to explain my thoughts better, like an exercise.