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Originally Posted by shazeep
i think maybe we are dealing with two separate arguments here, and the difference in "I have never sinned"--which only applies to Christ--and "Be Holy, as I am Holy," which indicates that one can in fact "sin no more" is not being kept apart.
Go, and sin no more.
but this seems to be impossible, at least for me!
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With men this is impossible. With God all things are possible:
Note the difference in these two statements:
Rom 7:19....For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Php 4:13....I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
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My Grace is sufficient. Admit your sin to whom you have offended, and ask forgiveness, and you will be forgiven.
so we are going around a lot about the "impossibility" of not sinning--which is true for any single entire life, from birth, but not true from this moment on, or else Go and sin no more and Be Holy are just the babblings of madmen, a cosmic joke, perhaps--and disregarding that sin is atoned for, if one can just accept that they have sinned and admit it out loud, and ask forgiveness, which is the "impossible" part for many people, which imo is (at least a cousin to) why not sinning is being portrayed as "impossible" here.
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One CAN cease from sin FROM THIS MOMENT ON.... BUT ONLY through the empowerment of the Spirit of God resident in us, and not merely just having the Spirit in us, though.
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If you are truly repentant and confessing every time you commit a sin, and having to humble yourself and ask forgiveness, you are going to stop committing that sin at some point;
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Not by natural power without the help of the Holy Spirit by any means.
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this is the essence of Grace--and if you are not doing any one of these things, you are in denial,
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No, that is not the essence of grace. That is a crossless grace, and therefore a false one.
Grace is referring to the cross. Grace is two things: Divine empowerment, and unmerited favour. Both are not possible without the cross. When the bible teaches grace, it is teaching the cross. Without the cross the bible's references to grace are emptied of all their intended meaning.
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and you can plead the blood of Christ all you like, that is not Grace,
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Nonsense.
It is grace indeed, if understood properly, which I think your beliefs are lacking.
Pleading the blood of Jesus is a phrase that is meant to be understood as having the faith that you can do nothing without the help of God. And God cannot help without us having been through the work of the cross. Sins separated us from God. And the only way sins can be remitted are by the blood of the cross. the blood of the cross is am encapsulating phrase that refers to the death of Jesus being vital and necessary in an absolute way to remit our sins. Without His shed blood there is no remission of sins. There goes your crossless righteousness and your crossless salvation out the window. So, when a person is appealing to God for help on the basis of one's faith in the absolute necessity of the cross for salvation and remission of sins, THAT AND THAT ALONE IS the proper understanding of GRACE. The way you espouse of grace is purely unbiblical.
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that is just some words to make you feel better about not confessing, and you are going to hear I never knew you someday, imo.
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It's not a phrase like abracadabra. It is a phrase that implies an understanding that one holds in one's heart, that without the death of Christ we could not get help from God for strengthening. But I suspect you did not realize that.
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