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View Poll Results: Those who never heard - what happens?
All lost, no exceptions 4 36.36%
Some may be saved somehow 0 0%
Raised in Millennium with second chance to believe 0 0%
Everybody gets saved eventually 3 27.27%
Other (please explain) 4 36.36%
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Old 08-15-2016, 08:59 AM
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Re: Those who never heard about Jesus?

Paul laid out THE GOSPEL he preached:
1Co 15:1-4....Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; ..(2)....By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. ..(3)....For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; ..(4)....And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
It's all he preached.
1Co 2:2....For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
And knowing his gospel was the death, burial and resurrection, we then understand what he meant by GOSPEL in these passages:
Gal 1:7-9....Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. ..(8)....But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. ..(9)....As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
That is like saying...
Gal 1:7-9....Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert Christ's death for our sins according to the scriptures; ..And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures..(8)....But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach anything other than Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; ..And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. ..(9)....As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach anything other than that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; ..And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Peter referred to the same gospel.

The question posed in the forum asks what Peter asked:

1Pe 4:17....For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?


Paul gave the answer:
2Th 1:7-10....And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, ..(8)....In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: ..(9)....Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; ..(10)....When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.
Insert these words where you read GOSPEL:
...I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; ..And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
For that is what Paul said the gospel was.

That is not hatred. It's love. Love of the cross. Dying for people WHILE THEY ARE SINNERS. That's not satan. That's God. Loving them WHILE THEY ARE SINNERS. It's not love to have to remove the concept of sinners from the equation. That's PHILEO, not AGAPE.
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Re: Those who never heard about Jesus?

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Paul laid out THE GOSPEL he preached:
1Co 15:1-4....Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; ..(2)....By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. ..(3)....For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; ..(4)....And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
It's all he preached.
1Co 2:2....For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
And knowing his gospel was the death, burial and resurrection, we then understand what he meant by GOSPEL in these passages:
Gal 1:7-9....Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. ..(8)....But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. ..(9)....As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
That is like saying...
Gal 1:7-9....Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert Christ's death for our sins according to the scriptures; ..And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures..(8)....But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach anything other than Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; ..And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. ..(9)....As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach anything other than that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; ..And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Peter referred to the same gospel.

The question posed in the forum asks what Peter asked:

1Pe 4:17....For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?


Paul gave the answer:
2Th 1:7-10....And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, ..(8)....In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: ..(9)....Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; ..(10)....When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.
Insert these words where you read GOSPEL:
...I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; ..And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
For that is what Paul said the gospel was.

That is not hatred. It's love. Love of the cross. Dying for people WHILE THEY ARE SINNERS. That's not satan. That's God. Loving them WHILE THEY ARE SINNERS. It's not love to have to remove the concept of sinners from the equation. That's PHILEO, not AGAPE.

This is the core question here:

The question posed in the forum asks what Peter asked:

1Pe 4:17....For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?


Paul gave the answer:

2Th 1:7-10....And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, ..(8)....In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: ..(9)....Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; ..(10)....When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

Does that answer the question of the poll? If not, why not? Thanks, all
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