Those who never heard about Jesus?

[Antipas]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Thankfully though we have some internet guy on AFF named "Antipas" to sort it all out for us.

Here are a few contradictions demonstrating that the Bible isn't inerrant.

Who was Joseph's father, Jacob or Heli?

MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.

Who was at the Empty Tomb?

MAT 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

MAR 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

JOH 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

How many stalls and horsemen?

1KI 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.

2CH 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.

Jesus' first sermon plain or mount?

MAT 5:1,2: "And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying...."

LUK 6:17,20: "And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the company of his disciples, and a great multitude of people...came to hear him.. And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples and said..."

Who provoked David to number Israel?

II SAMUEL 24: And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

I CHRONICLES 21: And SATAN stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

How did Judas die, by hanging himself or by leaping headfirst to his death?

"And he (Judas) cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. And the chief priests...bought with them the potter's field." (MAT 27:5)

"Now this man (Judas) purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out." (ACT 1:18)

How old was Jehoiachin when he began to reign?

2KI 24:8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.

2CH 36:9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD.

Those are just a few contradictions. The Bible isn't inerrant. It was written, copied, and compiled by human beings. The revelation it contains clearly shows the limited understanding, cultural bias, and religious ideals of those involved. It isn't the inerrant "Word of God". However, one can draw many spiritual truths from it's contents.

All of this is also true of every other religious manuscript or sacred scriptures belonging to other religions.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Antipas

Here are a few contradictions demonstrating that the Bible isn't inerrant.

What is Jesus and the apostles quoting in the New Testament? Meaning what Bible were they getting the quotes from?

[Antipas]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

What is Jesus and the apostles quoting in the New Testament? Meaning what Bible were they getting the quotes from?

Jesus and his disciples primarily quoted and referenced the Torah and Jewish law. Paul not only quoted the Torah and Jewish law, but he also quoted the Greek philosophers a couple times. This is to be expected. The revelation that became known as "Christianity" was evolving out of Judaism in a culture that was strongly influenced by Greek philosophy.

We see the same thing in Buddhism. Siddhārtha Gautama (Buddha) referenced the Hindu Vedas and shares various concepts that were eventually popularized in the Upanishads. After all, just as Buddhism grew out of Hinduism; Christianity grew out of Judaism.

If you go back even further, every modern religion has reflections of spiritual truths originally found in the ancient mythologies possessed by cultures predating them that have now vanished in the sands of time. And those mythologies even embody concepts found in various cave art and burial customs practiced by Cro-Magnons and Neanderthals.

It's almost like the same story is told over and over again in innumerable ways. This is indicative of a timeless universal spiritual truth.

"I believe that God's truth is higher, deeper & longer than all our creeds and includes what is best in each of them." - Horace Greeley, Unitarian Universalist

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Antipas

Jesus and his disciples primarily quoted and referenced the Torah and Jewish law. Paul not only quoted the Torah and Jewish law, but he also quoted the Greek philosophers a couple times. This is to be expected. The revelation that became known as "Christianity" was evolving out of Judaism in a culture that was strongly influenced by Greek philosophy.

We see the same thing in Buddhism. Siddhārtha Gautama (Buddha) referenced the Hindu Vedas and shares various concepts that were eventually popularized in the Upanishads. After all, just as Buddhism grew out of Hinduism; Christianity grew out of Judaism.

Sidhartha quoted Vedic writings, because he was a vedic reformist. Yet, if I asked you what translation or interpretation did he quote from could you tell me? That is what I'm asking you. Torah what Torah? What Torah did Jesus and the apostles get their quotes from? Christianity grew out of Judaism? What Judaism? You mean Jesus look liked Rabbi Mendel Schneerson? Was Jesus part of the Baal Shem Tov's Chabad? What Judaism did Christianity grow out of?

[Antipas]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sidhartha quoted Vedic writings, because he was a vedic reformist. Yet, if I asked you what translation or interpretation did he quote from could you tell me? That is what I'm asking you. Torah what Torah? What Torah did Jesus and the apostles get their quotes from? Christianity grew out of Judaism? What Judaism? You mean Jesus look liked Rabbi Mendel Schneerson? Was Jesus part of the Baal Shem Tov's Chabad? What Judaism did Christianity grow out of?

Exactly.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Antipas

Exactly.

No answer?

So, you claim the Bible is filled with contradictions but don't know what "torah" the apostles and Christ were using?