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View Poll Results: Those who never heard - what happens?
All lost, no exceptions 4 36.36%
Some may be saved somehow 0 0%
Raised in Millennium with second chance to believe 0 0%
Everybody gets saved eventually 3 27.27%
Other (please explain) 4 36.36%
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Old 08-24-2016, 08:07 AM
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Re: Those who never heard about Jesus?

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hmm, that is not what i got from the chapter. at all. He seems to go to some lengths to express that he did not care. He waited 3 years?
Notice, you are both studying the same book, yet walking away with two different perspectives. Is the truth changing for each of you? Or are you each experiencing that human filter that the Divine Reality has constantly struggled to penetrate?

Imagine that you and Blume both chose to write books about various Bible topics. Each of your books would be very different, no doubt. But does that mean your source is imperfect? No! It means your abilities to understand are limited and imperfect. Would there be truth in each of your books? Yes! Both of you would share some important truths. Might there be some misunderstandings? Of course! Both of you will have misunderstood various points.

Ah, the limitations of humanity as it tries to express divine realities.
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Old 08-24-2016, 08:47 AM
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Re: Those who never heard about Jesus?

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Notice, you are both studying the same book, yet walking away with two different perspectives. Is the truth changing for each of you? Or are you each experiencing that human filter that the Divine Reality has constantly struggled to penetrate?

Imagine that you and Blume both chose to write books about various Bible topics. Each of your books would be very different, no doubt. But does that mean your source is imperfect? No! It means your abilities to understand are limited and imperfect. Would there be truth in each of your books? Yes! Both of you would share some important truths. Might there be some misunderstandings? Of course! Both of you will have misunderstood various points.

Ah, the limitations of humanity as it tries to express divine realities.
There are too many variables as to why one person disagrees with another about a particular verse of scripture to say it is because both are wrong, or all religious texts have errors, since all religions are right.

Again, no foundation leaves one at one's own whims.

For example, our friend says no one can know they're saved. I pull out chapter and verse where people in the early church were claimed to have been saved b the writing of the apostle. What's the response? "Those verses are there to deceive the dishonest." Yeah....

And your response to verses showing reincarnation is contradicted in the bible is to say those texts were corruptions amidst the truth of the rest of the bible.

That manner just doesn't fly.

So, when a person actually believes ALL the bible says, and doesn't believe there are glaring errors like both of you claim, THAT is why there are disagreements with us three.
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