Steve Pixler Selling Cornerstone Church!

[Sister Alvear]

I am saying we should not say unkind things on a public forum about his family. I DO NOT agree with all his choices I think YOU know that but he has teenagers and children and I just don't think we ...me..or anyone...should say things children will (might) read.

[Sister Alvear]

Anyone that knows me know the life I live...and what our church stands for. I was only trying to express there are souls involved.

[Sister Alvear]

Maybe I am touchy on this subject...too touchy....sorry...I do have rights and wrongs and blacks and whites...however my sister was hurt many years ago in church and she raised her children in a Baptist church....she never came back to a Pentecostal church...One of her sons and his wife were invited to a pentecostal church and received the HG...He could not believe that his mother had once had this wonderful experience. I just don't want to see his children hurt. Sorry if I expressed my self in a way that was not clear.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by consapente89

Recently heard a great man of God tell a group of preacher's wives "You have a responsibility to follow your husbands everywhere, except for Hell!"

I'm very sorry for his family and all that are following him. Sister Alvear, with all due respect...I fear the Apostle Paul would be far to unkind for your tastes.

Gimme a break.

I fear the apostle Paul would blast the legalism, works-righteousness, and self righteousness prevalent in the ultra conservative clothesline righteousness movement. Come to think of it.....have you ever read Galatians bro?

[Sister Alvear]

Sorry if i made a wrong impression and was not trying to argue.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Jason B

That was simply mean. No need to get personal. To start making comments about someones wife and kids is beyond juvenile, and certainly not Christlike.

Bro? Personal with who? Was I personal? Then I'm a better guesser than I thought? Interestingly enough if you would check my postings over the years (not thinking you would) but if you did, you would find that is how I usually portray the ones who basking in their new found liberty. Yet, what I may suggest is that when you make the above statements you should take some pause and ponder before you pen?

Originally Posted by Jason B

But you good ole boys

But? Yes, indeed, the good old "but" usually enlisted when you attempt to remove a brother's proverbial speck while flaming out your beamed up eyeball.

Originally Posted by Jason B

But you good ole boys are holier than thou

Here comes the love bombing from the side who is trying to prove brand X are bad. Within just a few key strokes of rebuking me you fly right into "good ole boys who are self righteous dinosaurs, who aren't even smart enough to drag themselves out of the tar pit. Physician heal thy self.

Originally Posted by Jason B

But you good ole boys are holier than thou and in self righteousness point and sneer at everyone else.

Sneer? Oh, but what you are doing now is righteous, pure, and justified because you are good, and we are bad. You have left the cave, and standing beneath a sky of blue proclaiming your rightness. Excuse me, maybe when your cognitive dissonance wears off you will see that you do exactly what you rebuke others for. You just think that God is smiling more when you do it.

Originally Posted by Jason B

But you good ole boys are holier than thou and in self righteousness point and sneer at everyone else. The phonyness of the ultra con love is always manifest when someone leaves their fold.

Phoniness? So, I can determine that what you have posted in this post can be taken as honest to God agape love from you? Just instead of pointing out the nonsense of those who go native, you just do it the other way around. You just blow torch the ones left behind who dare to voice their opinion? Maybe you can start a group and call it Ex One God Pentecostal Lives Matter?

Originally Posted by Jason B

You guys see it as standing for the old paths and uncompromising, everyone else sees it as emulations, jealousy, bitterness and hatred.

And you see it as your group as enlightened and the Old Path group are still gnawing bones in the cave. Again, you are good, and everyone else at the other end of the Old Pennycost tunnel are toothless backward Neanderthals.
You mean you really don't get it? All the quips, all the rimshots, pointed at brothers who happen to be what you all deem Old time Pentecostal, are all over this forum. But when one of us give you back the right foot of fellowship some of you start crying for a Safe-space? Good God from Zion, so when is the first meeting of Ex Old Time Pentecostal Lives matter?

Originally Posted by Jason B

The UCs true spirit and true love is,manifest when someone leaves. Typically thats when the mask is ripped off. Its sad.

And your's is manifested at those who are still involved in the movement you left. Just as long as they fly under your radar they are cool, but when they point out the greasy spot on your backside? Good night, gloves are off and its time to trample the bad UC.

Originally Posted by Jason B

Isn't it ironic that those who leave are always tagged as "bitter", but in reality it seems the ones who seem bitter are those who choose to stay.

The ones who choose to what? The ones who choose to stay? You mean they made the wrong choice? Oh, that's because you made the right choice and the ones who stayed aren't as smart as you? Or they won't pay attention to your use of the scripture, and therefore they are bitter. Good grief....Aldous Huxley would be sad

Originally Posted by Jason B

Seemingly jealous over another mans freedom, while they themselves languish in bondage?

Bro, if that were really true you would of never posted a single word. All one needs to do is just turn your post around in the other direction. As you can see it's quite easy to do. Good Ole Boys, Holier than Thou, Self Righteous, Hatred, Bitter, etc, etc? But where's this love you speak of? You sure didn't tackle this discussion as you claim it should be done.

Originally Posted by Jason B

And they know they want out,

And you know you want in?

Originally Posted by Jason B

they know they want freedom, but fear the opinions of peers, and the humility that comes from admitting we were wrong all those years.

You definitely weren't thinking about me when you typed out these words.

Which proves my entire point, you have a chip, it weighs heavy on your shoulder.

Originally Posted by Jason B

True, some people leave and make spiritual shipwreck of themselves. A lot of that is on the individual, but also, I believe, a big factor is the unhealthy spiritual environment they leave.

Really?

So Jim and Tammy Bakker were One God Pentecostals? Earl Paulk was an One God Pentecostal? Moses David Berg was One God Ultra Con?

Bro, your argument has nothing to do with a shoeshine, clean shaven face, and long sleeves. It has all to do with sinners doing sinner things.

Originally Posted by Jason B

While I don't believe oneness pentecostalism is a cult,

Oh you most certainly do.

Listen, just tell the truth and shame the devil.

Originally Posted by Jason B

it certainly shares a lot of physiological and social similarities to groups like Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, and 7th Day Adventists. And the reaction of those still in vs those who leave is eerily similar to the cults.

There you go Bad Dee Joe you just shamed the devil

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Jason B

Gimme a break.

I fear the apostle Paul would blast the legalism, works-righteousness, and self righteousness prevalent in the ultra conservative clothesline righteousness movement. Come to think of it.....have you ever read Galatians bro?

There you go, here is where the whole list of Bible characters get into lock step march right along with you.

Yep, it is others who are self righteous?

[consapente89]

I don't see Steve P. as a totally a kind humble man in this whole scenario. In the blog post that was linked in the thread, earlier he called holiness minded people hypocrites...while admonishing all those who had been liberated to be nice to the poor legalists. I suppose he wouldn't consider you a hypocrite if you refused to say he is wrong.

This isn't a simple "change of opinion" or a "different route". This is backsliding. I know...such a legalistic word. Pixler is in apostasy.

I understand your desire for kindness , Sister Alvear. I respect you and your husband for your stand and appreciate your sincerity and kindness. I don't want to be overly harsh or unkind either. I get angry, however when creeps like Pixler pervert the saving message of My Lord and turn the Grace of God into lasciviousness. Pixler is leading his family and congregation to hell. I'm sorry but that doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy inside.

[consapente89]

In (as one poster put it) Steve's roadmap to apostasy he said

"Now, Jesus is going to show you who you are before him."

Elder Paul Price once said "God is going to make you exactly what you are before you die."

In other words...your real character is gonna be seen!

Regardless of what Steve has been...today he is an apostate preacher. A false teacher. A heretic. Period. That's not unkind...its just truth.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Bro? Personal with who? Was I personal? Then I'm a better guesser than I thought? Interestingly enough if you would check my postings over the years (not thinking you would) but if you did, you would find that is how I usually portray the ones who basking in their new found liberty. Yet, what I may suggest is that when you make the above statements you should take some pause and ponder before you pen?

But? Yes, indeed, the good old "but" usually enlisted when you attempt to remove a brother's proverbial speck while flaming out your beamed up eyeball.

Here comes the love bombing from the side who is trying to prove brand X are bad. Within just a few key strokes of rebuking me you fly right into "good ole boys who are self righteous dinosaurs, who aren't even smart enough to drag themselves out of the tar pit. Physician heal thy self.

Sneer? Oh, but what you are doing now is righteous, pure, and justified because you are good, and we are bad. You have left the cave, and standing beneath a sky of blue proclaiming your rightness. Excuse me, maybe when your cognitive dissonance wears off you will see that you do exactly what you rebuke others for. You just think that God is smiling more when you do it.

Phoniness? So, I can determine that what you have posted in this post can be taken as honest to God agape love from you? Just instead of pointing out the nonsense of those who go native, you just do it the other way around. You just blow torch the ones left behind who dare to voice their opinion? Maybe you can start a group and call it Ex One God Pentecostal Lives Matter?

And you see it as your group as enlightened and the Old Path group are still gnawing bones in the cave. Again, you are good, and everyone else at the other end of the Old Pennycost tunnel are toothless backward Neanderthals.
You mean you really don't get it? All the quips, all the rimshots, pointed at brothers who happen to be what you all deem Old time Pentecostal, are all over this forum. But when one of us give you back the right foot of fellowship some of you start crying for a Safe-space? Good God from Zion, so when is the first meeting of Ex Old Time Pentecostal Lives matter?

And your's is manifested at those who are still involved in the movement you left. Just as long as they fly under your radar they are cool, but when they point out the greasy spot on your backside? Good night, gloves are off and its time to trample the bad UC.

The ones who choose to what? The ones who choose to stay? You mean they made the wrong choice? Oh, that's because you made the right choice and the ones who stayed aren't as smart as you? Or they won't pay attention to your use of the scripture, and therefore they are bitter. Good grief....Aldous Huxley would be sad

Bro, if that were really true you would of never posted a single word. All one needs to do is just turn your post around in the other direction. As you can see it's quite easy to do. Good Ole Boys, Holier than Thou, Self Righteous, Hatred, Bitter, etc, etc? But where's this love you speak of? You sure didn't tackle this discussion as you claim it should be done.

And you know you want in?

You definitely weren't thinking about me when you typed out these words.

Which proves my entire point, you have a chip, it weighs heavy on your shoulder.

Really?

So Jim and Tammy Bakker were One God Pentecostals? Earl Paulk was an One God Pentecostal? Moses David Berg was One God Ultra Con?

Bro, your argument has nothing to do with a shoeshine, clean shaven face, and long sleeves. It has all to do with sinners doing sinner things.

Oh you most certainly do.

Listen, just tell the truth and shame the devil.

There you go Bad Dee Joe you just shamed the devil

This whole post is nonsense and spin that would make the Clinton campaign blush.....