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Old 11-30-2016, 12:10 AM
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And what of Sodom and Gomorrah? You cannot bury your head in the sand and ignore how God dealt with the sin that had taken over these two cities.



There have always been freaks of nature, however even with all that, there is still no definitive conclusion that one is born with a desire for the same sex. I personally believe it is a spirit of perversion that one gives into at some point in their life.

But one thing we do know is this. The way God dealt with a city full of homose*uals lets us know quite plainly, just how He feels about that sin.

(I use * in certain words so as to not draw in computer bots looking for those words)
See the emboldened part of the above quotation. Sis, I am surprised and disheartened to see you call another human being a "freak of nature", just because they were born with a different form or abnormality due to whatever flaw existed in their parent's DNA.

They were created by the LORD God, and are just as fearfully and wonderfully made as any other human. God is the cause of how they were shaped in their mother's womb. Is God in the habit of making freaks, in the derogatory, pejorative sense of the word?

In my opinion, I think not.
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See the emboldened part of the above quotation. Sis, I am surprised and disheartened to see you call another human being a "freak of nature", just because they were born with a different form or abnormality due to whatever flaw existed in their parent's DNA.

They were created by the LORD God, and are just as fearfully and wonderfully made as any other human. God is the cause of how they were shaped in their mother's womb. Is God in the habit of making freaks, in the derogatory, pejorative sense of the word?

In my opinion, I think not.
Excuse me, but are you saying that Homosexuals are born Homosexuals?
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Excuse me, but are you saying that Homosexuals are born Homosexuals?
NO EB, he is talking about hermaphroditism, follow the thread.
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Excuse me, but are you saying that Homosexuals are born Homosexuals?
No. But they are born with a law of sin in their members that, when revives, slays them. That law of sin can be directed toward homosexuality.

KBTW was referring to godsdrummer's post about hermaphrodites. She was calling hermaphrodites "freaks of nature". I do not believe it to be very consistent with Christ-likeness to call someone born with additional, opposite sex genitalia a "freak of nature", when God is the author of life and is the cause of many disabilities, as He said in Exodus to Moses, and etc. David wasn't and isn't the only human God "knit together" in a mother's womb.
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See the emboldened part of the above quotation. Sis, I am surprised and disheartened to see you call another human being a "freak of nature", just because they were born with a different form or abnormality due to whatever flaw existed in their parent's DNA.

They were created by the LORD God, and are just as fearfully and wonderfully made as any other human. God is the cause of how they were shaped in their mother's womb. Is God in the habit of making freaks, in the derogatory, pejorative sense of the word?

In my opinion, I think not.
I concur too many can only think from the point of view that they have been given by others. "if the pastor says the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was homosexuality, then it must have been". Regardless as to the fact that the meaning of the word Sodom in Hebrew has nothing to do with sex.
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I concur too many can only think from the point of view that they have been given by others. "if the pastor says the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was homosexuality, then it must have been". Regardless as to the fact that the meaning of the word Sodom in Hebrew has nothing to do with sex.
How about, when Lot offered his daughters to the crowd, they still demanded the two men (angels). It's not just about the name Sodom. There is much evidence that the city was filled with homos.
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I concur too many can only think from the point of view that they have been given by others. "if the pastor says the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was homosexuality, then it must have been". Regardless as to the fact that the meaning of the word Sodom in Hebrew has nothing to do with sex.
Amen. "Scorched and Ruined" for "Sodom and Gomorrah". These were assigned, etiological names given to these places after God's destroyed them. Prior to, they likely had different names.
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See the emboldened part of the above quotation. Sis, I am surprised and disheartened to see you call another human being a "freak of nature", just because they were born with a different form or abnormality due to whatever flaw existed in their parent's DNA.

They were created by the LORD God, and are just as fearfully and wonderfully made as any other human. God is the cause of how they were shaped in their mother's womb. Is God in the habit of making freaks, in the derogatory, pejorative sense of the word?

In my opinion, I think not.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/freak-of-nature

freak of nature
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noun
1.
a person or animal that is born or grows with abnormal physical features.
2.
an unusual, unexpected natural phenomenon.
Origin of freak of nature Expand
1840-1850

I didn't make that term up Votive.

The term "freak of nature" is simply a way of describing someone born with abnormal physical features, whatever they may be, and not necessarily se*ual.

And I agree with you that we are all created by the Lord.
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a person or animal that is born or grows with abnormal physical features.
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an unusual, unexpected natural phenomenon.
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I didn't make that term up Votive.

The term "freak of nature" is simply a way of describing someone born with abnormal physical features, whatever they may be, and not necessarily se*ual.

And I agree with you that we are all created by the Lord.
Bump. I think you must have missed this post Votive?
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Bump. I think you must have missed this post Votive?
Just needed to catch up.
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