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12-06-2016, 11:20 AM
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Re: Clinton/Trump Aides Clash At Harvard Forum
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It's no secret that I don't like Trump and am part of #NeverTrump; however, "Trump is a Nazi" is a bit much. Yes, he's inconsistent. He's arrogant. He's rude and indecent and obscene. But Trump isn't a Nazi.
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Trump has appointed Alt-Right, white nationalist, Steve Bannon to Chief Strategist. Trump has white power groups celebrating all over the nation. Trump's positions are fascist. He's a Nazi. If Trump isn't a Nazi, he's the biggest buffoon to ever win an election because he's walking headlong into surrounding himself with nationalists and right-wing extremists without knowing. Maybe I'm giving Trump too much credit, but I think he knows what he's doing. That makes him a Nazi. And nothing can change that.
No one can defend appointing trash like Steven Bannon to anything, unless it is the ash heap of history.
Do you support the likes of Steve Bannon? Or are you going to draw a line in the sand and call a duck a duck?
This is lining up to be the most ultra-right wing regime to ever assume power in the United States. It's our DUTY to denounce it and call a spade a spade. This is as close as you can come to having a Nazi take over without actual self-professed, German speaking, Nazis actually taking over.
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12-06-2016, 11:33 AM
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J.esus i.s t.he o.ne God (463)
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Re: Clinton/Trump Aides Clash At Harvard Forum
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He has appointed white supremacists,
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No he hasn't. Please stop putting me in the position of having to defend Trump.
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he has white power groups celebrating all over the nation.
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And?
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His positions are fascist.
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Specifically?
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He's a Nazi. Nothing can change that.
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No, he's not. Aquila, would you stop delving into hyperbole? You're not doing yourself any good.
And STOP MAKING ME DEFEND TRUMP!
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12-06-2016, 11:35 AM
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Re: Clinton/Trump Aides Clash At Harvard Forum
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No he hasn't. Please stop putting me in the position of having to defend Trump.
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Here's the interesting fact. You're CHOOSING to defend him. I'm not forcing you to do anything. The man's a Nazi. Choose not to defend a Nazi, and we're good. Even if you disagree with me here and there on various details.
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12-06-2016, 12:07 PM
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J.esus i.s t.he o.ne God (463)
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Re: Clinton/Trump Aides Clash At Harvard Forum
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Here's the interesting fact. You're CHOOSING to defend him. I'm not forcing you to do anything. The man's a Nazi. Choose not to defend a Nazi, and we're good. Even if you disagree with me here and there on various details.
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You're right, I'm choosing to because you're posting this garbage without a single shred of evidence. Being conservative means holding to consistent principles, including defending someone I don't even like, when someone posts lies about him.
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Sometimes hidden dangers spring on us suddenly. Those are out of our control. But when one can see the danger, and then refuses to arrest , all in the name of "God is in control", they are forfeiting God given, preventive opportunities.
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12-06-2016, 12:11 PM
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Re: Clinton/Trump Aides Clash At Harvard Forum
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You're right, I'm choosing to because you're posting this garbage without a single shred of evidence. Being conservative means holding to consistent principles, including defending someone I don't even like, when someone posts lies about him.
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12-06-2016, 11:57 AM
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Re: Clinton/Trump Aides Clash At Harvard Forum
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Trump has appointed Alt-Right, white nationalist, Steve Bannon to Chief Strategist. Trump has white power groups celebrating all over the nation. Trump's positions are fascist. He's a Nazi. If Trump isn't a Nazi, he's the biggest buffoon to ever win an election because he's walking headlong into surrounding himself with nationalists and right-wing extremists without knowing. Maybe I'm giving Trump too much credit, but I think he knows what he's doing. That makes him a Nazi. And nothing can change that.
No one can defend appointing trash like Steven Bannon to anything, unless it is the ash heap of history.
Do you support the likes of Steve Bannon? Or are you going to draw a line in the sand and call a duck a duck?
This is lining up to be the most ultra-right wing regime to ever assume power in the United States. It's our DUTY to denounce it and call a spade a spade. This is as close as you can come to having a Nazi take over without actual self-professed, German speaking, Nazis actually taking over.
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Name something Steve Bannon has done which proves your claims. Consult your liberal rags - HuffPo, DailyBeast, Vox, etc - then post something Bannon has actually done which proves your claim that he's an alt-right, white nationalist trash.
As far as Trump is concerned, I don't know what to say. He's not a nice guy, that's for sure. But he's not a Nazi, he's not a racist, nor is he surrounding himself with such.
Take a breath and ease off the ledge. Breathe, Aquila. Deep breaths. Wooooosaaaaaahhhhhhh.
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12-06-2016, 12:14 PM
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Re: Clinton/Trump Aides Clash At Harvard Forum
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Name something Steve Bannon has done which proves your claims. Consult your liberal rags - HuffPo, DailyBeast, Vox, etc - then post something Bannon has actually done which proves your claim that he's an alt-right, white nationalist trash.
As far as Trump is concerned, I don't know what to say. He's not a nice guy, that's for sure. But he's not a Nazi, he's not a racist, nor is he surrounding himself with such.
Take a breath and ease off the ledge. Breathe, Aquila. Deep breaths. Wooooosaaaaaahhhhhhh.

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You know, few people thought Hitler was a big deal in the beginning too. Let a 9/11 style tragedy unfold within the next 4 years and.... this man will be TROUBLE for the entire world.
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12-06-2016, 12:21 PM
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Re: Clinton/Trump Aides Clash At Harvard Forum
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You know, few people thought Hitler was a big deal in the beginning too. Let a 9/11 style tragedy unfold within the next 4 years and.... this man will be TROUBLE for the entire world.
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Conservatives said the same thing about obama, remember?
He was going to burn the constitution, take all our guns, throw us in FEMA camps, impose martial law and make himself supreme dictator.
And yet, here we are beginning another peaceful transition of power from one POTUS to another.
Again, there are lot of things Trump has talked about and believes which should they become policy are incredibly bad. But here's the thing: there's no way any POTUS would be able to become a Hitler. Someone would stop the threat quickly.
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12-06-2016, 12:24 PM
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Re: Clinton/Trump Aides Clash At Harvard Forum
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Conservatives said the same thing about obama, remember?
He was going to burn the constitution, take all our guns, throw us in FEMA camps, impose martial law and make himself supreme dictator.
And yet, here we are beginning another peaceful transition of power from one POTUS to another.
Again, there are lot of things Trump has talked about and believes which should they become policy are incredibly bad. But here's the thing: there's no way any POTUS would be able to become a Hitler. Someone would stop the threat quickly.
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Obama never promised any of these Jack Boot policies. He was accused of secretly wanting to confiscate guns, etc.
Trump brazenly professes that he actually thinks we need these fascist policies.
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12-06-2016, 12:26 PM
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Re: Clinton/Trump Aides Clash At Harvard Forum
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Conservatives said the same thing about obama, remember?
He was going to burn the constitution, take all our guns, throw us in FEMA camps, impose martial law and make himself supreme dictator.
And yet, here we are beginning another peaceful transition of power from one POTUS to another.
Again, there are lot of things Trump has talked about and believes which should they become policy are incredibly bad. But here's the thing: there's no way any POTUS would be able to become a Hitler. Someone would stop the threat quickly.
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This man's wacko ideas only reveal what kind of man he is inside. It reveals how he thinks. The man is a Nazi. Now, hopefully Congress has the manhood to stop him cold when necessary. However, if a massive tragedy unfolds within the next 4 years and this man assumes almost total power.... we have a snap shot of what goes on in his mind. He's TROUBLE. He will not be cool, calm, and principled in a national crisis. The man is a lose cannon who will resort to Hitleresque policies of profiling, detainment, and the use of weapons of mass destruction. Any resistance could lead to genocide on American soil.
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