Tread lightly gents. It's not nice to talk this way about Mother. She may have grown up in the days of the little house out back and no electricty, but she did birth us.
RevD, the men I know and have known, thank God arent like this.... the UPCI i grew up with wasnt narrow and controlling. I still go to a UPCI church that is not narrow and controlling. IMOH there is more good than bad in the UPCI and I still believe it is the best organization that preaches the Truth. having said that, there is need to discuss the things that need change.
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RevD, the men I know and have known, thank God arent like this.... the UPCI i grew up with wasnt narrow and controlling. I still go to a UPCI church that is not narrow and controlling. IMOH there is more good than bad in the UPCI and I still believe it is the best organization that preaches the Truth. having said that, there is need to discuss the things that need change.
Amen. Why is that when we discuss needed change, we are told to be careful; yet when we are told we need to conform, caution is thrown to the wind. There is no regard given to the feelings of those who disagree with extra-biblical doctrines.
Amen. Why is that when we discuss needed change, we are told to be careful; yet when we are told we need to conform, caution is thrown to the wind. There is no regard given to the feelings of those who disagree with extra-biblical doctrines.
RevD, the men I know and have known, thank God arent like this.... the UPCI i grew up with wasnt narrow and controlling. I still go to a UPCI church that is not narrow and controlling. IMOH there is more good than bad in the UPCI and I still believe it is the best organization that preaches the Truth. having said that, there is need to discuss the things that need change.
I says lets discuss ideas all day long [well not all day long as i have a full time job ]. Just don't beat up on the UPCI. It's gotten us to where we are even if some have parted ways.
The UPC will not save us, that takes Jesus.
The UPC did not call me to minister, Jesus did.
But the UPC has been a good means of transport.
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I says lets discuss ideas all day long [well not all day long as i have a full time job ]. Just don't beat up on the UPCI. It's gotten us to where we are even if some have parted ways.
The UPC will not save us, that takes Jesus.
The UPC did not call me to minister, Jesus did.
But the UPC has been a good means of transport.
i dont even see this as a UPCI thing. my UPCI never has been this way. It is a group of men that seek to make the UPCI in their own image. that has to be stopped.
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i dont even see this as a UPCI thing. my UPCI never has been this way. It is a group of men that seek to make the UPCI in their own image. that has to be stopped.
It's been codified ... Ferd ... too late in my opinion ... it would mean admitting they were wrong ... that will take more than resolutions.
It's been codified ... Ferd ... too late in my opinion ... it would mean admitting they were wrong ... that will take more than resolutions.
Oh please. if that were true, jack booted thugs would have walked into POA and taken AMs card. this is mythology my friend. the fact is the ultra cons are prepareing to exit if and when the UPCI vote for advertising on television.
But I do understand why you felt the need to walk away. while things like TV and standards have not been codified, doctrine still matters.
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Oh please. if that were true, jack booted thugs would have walked into POA and taken AMs card. this is mythology my friend. the fact is the ultra cons are prepareing to exit if and when the UPCI vote for advertising on television.
But I do understand why you felt the need to walk away. while things like TV and standards have not been codified, doctrine still matters.
Far from the mark .... more I know what you're thinking .... rhetoric.
Far from the mark .... more I know what you're thinking .... rhetoric.
actually all that I was thinking is that from your posts on issues like doctrine, you are far removed from what the baseline moderate UPCI person is. nothing more or less.
that and I dont agree with you on this idea of these things being "codified"
this thread is about standards. I assume when you say things are codified, you speak of standards... which clearly isnt "codified" as I can point to con, mod and Lib. pastors in the UPCI.
now if you were refering to doctrine, then you did so in a thread about standards... but to a great degree, the doctrine has been more clearly codifed since the 92 AS.
But please Daniel, it has been a decade and a half. dont blame that for your...evalution.
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]. Just don't beat up on the UPCI. It's gotten us to where we are even if some have parted ways. 
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