Ooo MY!! UPC Pastor Orders $400 Lobster Dinner!!!! what do you think?

Elizabeth · #1 06-08-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri

Oh my...I don't think I could eat a $400 meal! One time at Atlantis, my family ate in one of the restaurants there and the bill was just over $200 for four of us. I felt guilty over that for days!!!!

I think the whole thing boils down to who paid the bill, the one who ordered the lobster, the other guy, or was the church footing the bill?? If it was the church, then I think it was totally out of order. If it was the other guy paying, I still think it was rude and not very thoughtful. If the guy who ate the lobster paid for it too, then it's probably none of my business. He may be ultra-rich!

Sherry you are right, and that is what I have been trying to say--the church is one that footed the bill not the guest.

"GL" · #2 06-08-2007, 05:59 PM

Then the pastor (or person responsible for paying the bill with the church card) should have spoken up and refused when the order was placed.

Sherri · #3 06-08-2007, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeanie

Sherry you are right, and that is what I have been trying to say--the church is one that footed the bill not the guest.

Well, then that's just WRONG!! Good people give money to the church trusting that it will be used wisely. If the pastor had wanted to bless someone with $400, that would be different. But for a visiting minister to order something like this????? That man would never be coming back to preach for us, I don't care who he is.

I can't stand when ministers are scheduled and then they send you a long list of requirements they "need" before they will come, i.e. five star hotel with restaurant, certain type of transportation, etc. When that happens, we pass that minister on by and go for someone not so presumptuous.

Elizabeth · #4 06-08-2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri

Well, then that's just WRONG!! Good people give money to the church trusting that it will be used wisely. If the pastor had wanted to bless someone with $400, that would be different. But for a visiting minister to order something like this????? That man would never be coming back to preach for us, I don't care who he is.

I can't stand when ministers are scheduled and then they send you a long list of requirements they "need" before they will come, i.e. five star hotel with restaurant, certain type of transportation, etc. When that happens, we pass that minister on by and go for someone not so presumptuous.

Sherri is that common? to ask for a list of requirements?

I felt it was a little presumptuous, myself to be so frivolous with someones money, the church is not a mega church-(that wouldn't make it right either)

When the pastor told us this story he didn't mention any names and rather laughed it off, but still I felt embarrassed-

Sherri · #5 06-08-2007, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeanie

Sherri is that common? to ask for a list of requirements?
I felt it was a little presumptuous, myself to be so frivolous with someones money, the church is not a mega church-(that wouldn't make it right either)

When the pastor told us this story he didn't mention any names and rather laughed it off, but still I felt embarrassed-

Jeanie, sadly it is common for anyone who is well known in the Spirit filled world. Maybe not in UPC circles, but definitely among independent ministers or singers. Lots of them demand a certain offering amount, rather than a love offering. We just won't have those that do. We always bless visiting ministers abundantly, more than they are usually expecting. It just aggravates us when they ask for a certain guaranteed amount.

TalkLady · #6 06-08-2007, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri

Jeanie, sadly it is common for anyone who is well known in the Spirit filled world. Maybe not in UPC circles, but definitely among independent ministers or singers. Lots of them demand a certain offering amount, rather than a love offering. We just won't have those that do. We always bless visiting ministers abundantly, more than they are usually expecting. It just aggravates us when they ask for a certain guaranteed amount.

I agree with this post. We always sacrificed so that visiting ministers and their families could stay in a nice hotel, have accounts at restaurants and gave extra for offerings. What is upsetting is after you've done that and you no longer pastor, no body knows ya...Oh, well.

Whole Hearted · #7 06-08-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeanie

Sherry you are right, and that is what I have been trying to say--the church is one that footed the bill not the guest.

What a shame.

Whole Hearted · #8 06-08-2007, 06:11 PM

I seen the time when we where in home missions that we had less then $400.00 to buy a months worth of groceries for a family of four.

Margies3 · #9 06-08-2007, 06:17 PM

I think I'm way outa my league here. I can't imagine paying $400 for one lobster. Or $1600 for, what?, 5 or 6 meals? Man oh man, ya'll are some rich folks!!!

I'm just the poor little sucker who puts my pittance in the plate each week, trusting that the man of God will recognize it as GOD's money and not his own and will use it and spend it that way.

(and Pianoman, I realize that the money for the $1600 meal didn't come from church offerings

I'm happy for you that you can afford to pay that much for those meals. I'm just saying that I don't belong here if you all are this rich!)

ILG · #10 06-08-2007, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

I seen the time when we where in home missions that we had less then $400.00 to buy a months worth of groceries for a family of four.

I hear you. Some of those preachers who preach loudest about sacrifice are some of the ones who know most little about it. I usually spent less than that. Just reality.