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Re: My Pastor Preach on Tithing - Faulty Methodolo
It is IMPOSSIBLE to give out of ones free will without being under compulsion with the threat of curses and hell when it's preached that is what the consequences.
So what we have is people giving out of fear and not out of joy.
Tell me, would you pay your income taxes if there was no penalties?
Only after I broke out of that mindset of fear was I able to give truly because I wanted to and not because I was scared of consequences.
We have preached this fear doctrine and we have become like battered abused wives scared of the consequences if supper isn't on the table exactly at 5pm and we have turned God into an abusive spouse ready to show us the back of His hand if He is not pleased.
That's not love and that's not my God.
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03-24-2017, 12:12 PM
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Re: My Pastor Preach on Tithing - Faulty Methodolo
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It is IMPOSSIBLE to give out of ones free will without being under compulsion with the threat of curses and hell when it's preached that is what the consequences.
So what we have is people giving out of fear and not out of joy.
Tell me, would you pay your income taxes if there was no penalties?
Only after I broke out of that mindset of fear was I able to give truly because I wanted to and not because I was scared of consequences.
We have preached this fear doctrine and we have become like battered abused wives scared of the consequences if supper isn't on the table exactly at 5pm and we have turned God into an abusive spouse ready to show us the back of His hand if He is not pleased.
That's not love and that's not my God.
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I agree with your overall principle.
I have been in churches that preached many different ways about tithing.
The ones that preach the 10 & 5 (tithes and offering) always are in more financial trouble than the ones who rarely even touch on tithes.
And those who rarely touched on it were also the ones that would take up large offerings whenever a need arose.
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03-24-2017, 12:42 PM
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Re: My Pastor Preach on Tithing - Faulty Methodolo
If we preach tithes are mandatory we must also follow the rules for who and what the tithes are for and what is supposed to be used as tithes and what is considered increase.
Not just "10% of all your money that comes in".
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03-24-2017, 12:44 PM
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Re: My Pastor Preach on Tithing - Faulty Methodolo
Am I against tithing and giving? Heck no! I'm against being put in a headlock over it!
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03-24-2017, 12:47 PM
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Re: My Pastor Preach on Tithing - Faulty Methodolo
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If we preach tithes are mandatory we must also follow the rules for who and what the tithes are for and what is supposed to be used as tithes and what is considered increase.
Not just "10% of all your money that comes in".
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If preaching tithes from the law one is going to have to change from money to food items.
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03-24-2017, 06:29 PM
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Re: My Pastor Preach on Tithing - Faulty Methodolo
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If preaching tithes from the law one is going to have to change from money to food items.
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Don't muzzle the ox that treads the corn.
So, if your preacher is treading your corn share that corn with the preacher.
Galatians 6:6
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03-25-2017, 10:44 AM
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Re: My Pastor Preach on Tithing - Faulty Methodolo
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Don't muzzle the ox that treads the corn.
So, if your preacher is treading your corn share that corn with the preacher.
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What was the ox grinding Benny? I can give food items and be in the proper context. BUT, I give filthy lucre instead.
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03-25-2017, 11:09 AM
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Re: My Pastor Preach on Tithing - Faulty Methodolo
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What was the ox grinding Benny? I can give food items and be in the proper context. BUT, I give filthy lucre instead.
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It depends upon culture.
...(people get touchy when it comes to money, phew!!)
I give tithes and have never worried about whether or not it was crops from the land instead of cash. lol
God loves a cheerful giver, no matter what the percentage is or even if it's done or not done in percentages.
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Re: My Pastor Preach on Tithing - Faulty Methodolo
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What was the ox grinding Benny? I can give food items and be in the proper context. BUT, I give filthy lucre instead.
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You would not be giving food, you would be giving wheat kernels. You would then take your pastor and tie him up to an apparatus used to grind wheat kernels to meal. You would also make sure that your pastor could graze as he turned the grinding wheel. So, let move up the chapter and see how really stupid this can get. 1 Corinthians 9:7 states does a soldier ever serve in the army at his own expense? Does anyone plant a vineyard and not eat the grapes? Does anyone take care of a flock and not drink milk from the sheep?
So, let's see, grapes, milk produced from YOUR females, and what? Expenses earned from battle? OK, so we have grapes, colostrum, wheat kernels and military pay.
Do you give any of the above?
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