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Originally Posted by Aquila
They made the case that the Levites and the three Hebrew captives in Babylon wore bifurcated garments. With this statement I agree. The Levites and the three captive Hebrews wore bifurcated clothing. However, both Pliny and Benincasa insisted that this implied that males commonly wore trousers in Israel. It is my understanding that they didn't. These are the only two cases in which bifurcated garments are mentioned in Scripture, and for the most part, male and female Israelites, and the Jews of Christ's day, actually wore clothing that was quite similar. Neither wore bifurcated garments as part of everyday common attire.
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The bolded is a flat out lie. I never said pants were commonly worn. There is little doubt that other men wore pants. However, that does not mean they were the fashion fad Aquila has accused me of saying. Aquila agrees that the Levites and the three Hebrew young men wore pants. It is only logical that other Hebrew young men wore them as well. Aquila, you need to prove your accusation or apologize.
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Since the average Israelite (male or female) didn't wear trousers, it's a mute point. What I wish to point out, however, is that both male and female did actually wear very similar attire. Therefore, the prohibition in Deuteronomy wasn't necessarily about a requirement to wear radically different "styles" of clothing.
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Holiness is not a popularity contest nor is it up for a vote. Whether an average Israeli wore trousers is indeed a mute point. Just not in the way Aquila wishes it was. The fact remains (and agreed to by Aquila) that godly men wore pants. Godly women did not. So simple even a cave man can understand it.
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Originally Posted by Aquila
They've yet to produce evidence that the average Israelite wore pants (which was their claim), and that the average attire was radically different between male and female.
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Again, another lie. The claim is that godly men wore pants. Godly women did not. A "claim" that Aquila agreed to above. Holiness is not a popularity contest. It does not matter if it was a widespread practice or not. What does matter is whether or not godly men wore them. The answer is yes - Aquila agrees. The next question is, did godly women wear them? The answer is no.
The only other question is whether or not Aquila has the courage to admit that godly women never wore pants. If so, PLEASE provide EVIDENCE - not wishful thinking.
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Originally Posted by Aquila
What I have done is establish that pants weren't a concern when Deuteronomy 22:5 was written. In addition, both male and female Israelites wore very similar clothing. |
This is patently false. The Levites were commanded to wear them prior to
Deu. 22:5 being written. Afterwards, the three godly Hebrew boys, who understood the Law, wore them into a fiery furnace while maintaining the Law. God was impressed enough to join them in the fire. Thus we have testimony prior to and after its command of godly men wearing pants. What has been established is that godly women did not.
Aquila has said Ancient Israeli's did not wear pants. That is a lie unless he wishes to argue that ancient Israel precedes Moses. Of course prior to Moses Israel was a family not a nation.
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Originally Posted by Aquila
All of these statements are designed to misinform the reader. It is my understanding that trousers/pants etc. were not common attire among the average Israelite. In fact, both men and women dressed similarly. They wore tunics, girdles, and outer garments. Among the common people, neither the men nor the women wore pants in ancient Judea.
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Now Aquila flat out says I purposely lied to the reader. Once again you owe an apology. A statement that other men wore them does not mean they were the fashion trend of the day. It simply means what it says. If I wanted, I could go back and copy and paste the multitudes of lies said by Aquila. Lies like no Ancient Israeli wore pants. This is a patently false statement. The Levites and the three Hebrew young men were ancient Israelis. Thus, this matter is self-evident.
Again, holiness is not up for a vote. It is not tied to popularity. What does matter is what God believes. In His word, He commanded Levites to wear them and later three godly Hebrew young men were thrown into a fiery furnace in defense of
Deu. 22:5 and the rest of the Law. God was pleased with them and joined them in the furnace.
What has been established is that Aquila is floundering around spouting fallacy after fallacy while acknowledging that what has been established cannot be refuted by himself.
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Originally Posted by Aquila
They made the case that the Levites and the three Hebrew captives in Babylon wore bifurcated garments. With this statement I agree.
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I am still waiting for EVIDENCE that godly women wore pants. The conspicuous absence of any coherent evidence speaks loudly. Aquila is wrong but will go to his grave fighting against what has been established.
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