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[n david]

Originally Posted by Pliny

You have kicked Christ off His judgment seat and condemn me for not doing so. That is funny. Any other answer and I would be condemned as a Legalistic Crusader who couldn't wait to chop someone down. You see, no matter what answer I give - you would attack it.

I've done no such thing!

You must believe Paul kicked Christ off His judgment seat as well, sin he named sin and stated very clearly that those who were in sin would die.

"Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."

"But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil"

"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?"

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

That Paul! How dare he kick Christ off His judgment seat!

Originally Posted by Pliny

You see, no matter what answer I give - you would attack it.

So that keeps you from stating your position? The lion from the Wizard of Oz had more courage in his tucked tail.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by n david

I've done no such thing!

You must believe Paul kicked Christ off His judgment seat as well, sin he named sin and stated very clearly that those who were in sin would die.

"Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."

"But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil"

"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?"

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

That Paul! How dare he kick Christ off His judgment seat!

Do you believe women police officers or serving in the military carrying arms etc are going to hell?

Do you believe Suzy New Convert, who has not yet had your Bible study on why she shouldn't be carrying concealed, is going to hell right along with the homos, adulterers, and satanists?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Do you believe women police officers or serving in the military carrying arms etc are going to hell?

Do you believe Suzy New Convert, who has not yet had your Bible study on why she shouldn't be carrying concealed, is going to hell right along with the homos, adulterers, and satanists?

No, I do not. I do not believe Deuteronomy 22:5 applies to the new covenant believers. Nor do the dietary laws, or other laws requiring ancient Jews to observe feasts, etc.

You and Pliny are trying very hard at that "gotcha" moment, but it's a dumpster fire of failure.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by n david

No, I do not. I do not believe Deuteronomy 22:5 applies to the new covenant believers. Nor do the dietary laws, or other laws requiring ancient Jews to observe feasts, etc.

You and Pliny are trying very hard at that "gotcha" moment, but it's a dumpster fire of failure.

So, it doesn't matter what Deut 22:5 means, it just flat out has no applicability to anyone today? Or only to today's non-Christians?

So then a man CAN put on a woman's garment, and a woman CAN wear that which pertains to a man - as long as they are Christians?

I'm not trying to find any "gotcha" moments, you provide them all rather freely.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Esaias

So, it doesn't matter what Deut 22:5 means, it just flat out has no applicability to anyone today? Or only to today's non-Christians?

So then a man CAN put on a woman's garment, and a woman CAN wear that which pertains to a man - as long as they are Christians?

I'm not trying to find any "gotcha" moments, you provide them all rather freely.

So you don't wear two kinds of threads, you don't eat shellfish or other prohibited meat. And you follow all the feasts?

Keep trying.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by n david

So you don't wear two kinds of threads, you don't eat shellfish or other prohibited meat. And you follow all the feasts?

Keep trying.

Actually, that's correct.

Next?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Actually, that's correct.

Next?