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Old 06-26-2017, 12:52 PM
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it was talking about actual garments, see link below


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it was talking about actual garments, see link below


http://biblehub.com/interlinear/deuteronomy/22-5.htm
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Deuteronomy 22:5

The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man - כלי גבר keli geber, the instruments or arms of a man. As the word גבר geber is here used, which properly signifies a strong man or man of war, it is very probable that armor is here intended; especially as we know that in the worship of Venus, to which that of Astarte or Ashtaroth among the Canaanites bore a striking resemblance, the women were accustomed to appear in armor before her. It certainly cannot mean a simple change in dress, whereby the men might pass for women, and vice versa. This would have been impossible in those countries where the dress of the sexes had but little to distinguish it, and where every man wore a long beard. It is, however, a very good general precept understood literally, and applies particularly to those countries where the dress alone distinguishes between the male and the female. The close-shaved gentleman may at any time appear like a woman in the female dress, and the woman appear as a man in the male’s attire. Were this to be tolerated in society, it would produce the greatest confusion. Clodius, who dressed himself like a woman that he might mingle with the Roman ladies in the feast of the Bona Dea, was universally execrated.
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Deuteronomy 22:5

The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man - כלי גבר keli geber, the instruments or arms of a man. As the word גבר geber is here used, which properly signifies a strong man or man of war, it is very probable that armor is here intended;
The word is used to refer to other men in the Bible. Used to refer to Job, when he was born. Was he wearing armor when he was an infant? Job a manchild is born Job 3:3, and then speaking of a man's own righteousness Job 4:17. It actually means healthy and virile. Strong. Nothing absolutely NOTHING about weapons, tool boxes, or hardhats. We don't teach from what might be, or could be. We teach what is plain. Don't wear women's clothing.

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especially as we know that in the worship of Venus, to which that of Astarte or Ashtaroth among the Canaanites bore a striking resemblance, the women were accustomed to appear in armor before her.
Seriously?

I must of missed that.

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It certainly cannot mean a simple change in dress, whereby the men might pass for women, and vice versa.
Deuteronomy 22:5 a man cannot disguise himself as a woman, and a woman cannot disguise herself as a man.

Nope.

Doesn't say that.


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This would have been impossible in those countries where the dress of the sexes had but little to distinguish it, and where every man wore a long beard. It is,
They were pasting on beards?

Deuteronomy 22:5

A woman shall not paste on a man's beard, and a man shall not grow his hair long because it would be a shame unto him.

Nope, doesn't say that.

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however, a very good general precept understood literally, and applies particularly to those countries where the dress alone distinguishes between the male and the female. The close-shaved gentleman may at any time appear like a woman in the female dress, and the woman appear as a man in the male’s attire. Were this to be tolerated in society, it would produce the greatest confusion. Clodius, who dressed himself like a woman that he might mingle with the Roman ladies in the feast of the Bona Dea, was universally execrated.
Adam Clarke commentary. You know how I know?

He spells Claudius, Clodius. In my studies on Nero, I found out something. Politicians throughout history, had their fair share of fake news. We have been handed down to us through the centuries. Whether or Claudius dressed like a female, we don't know. Whether it's important to this topic, honestly it's not. We are talking of an issue for the people who followed God. They were not to gender blend.
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The word is used to refer to other men in the Bible. Used to refer to Job, when he was born. Was he wearing armor when he was an infant? Job a manchild is born Job 3:3, and then speaking of a man's own righteousness Job 4:17. It actually means healthy and virile. Strong. Nothing absolutely NOTHING about weapons, tool boxes, or hardhats. We don't teach from what might be, or could be.

We teach what is plain. Don't wear women's clothing.
Then you don't take into consideration the use of a different word for man in this case. Nor do you take into consideration, the "that which pertains" to a man. IT IS NOT ABOUT PANTS OR DRESSES, if it is than anything that is split legged would be an abomination for a woman, including panties, hose, nylons and pajamas.

The fact is Duet 22:5 does not say "men shall not wear dresses, and women shall not wear pants". After all "we don't teach what might be, or could be".
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