Apostoic worship??

[JoeBandy]

Originally Posted by Amanah

{20:1} The first [day] of the week cometh Mary
Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre,
and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre. {20:2}
Then she runneth, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the
other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They
have taken away the Lord out of the sepulchre, and we
know not where they have laid him. {20:3} Peter therefore
went forth, and that other disciple, and came to the
sepulchre. {20:4} So they ran both together: and the other
disciple did outrun Peter, and came first to the sepulchre.
{20:5} And he stooping down, [and looking in,] saw the
linen clothes lying; yet went he not in. {20:6} Then cometh
Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre,
and seeth the linen clothes lie, {20:7} And the napkin, that
was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but
wrapped together in a place by itself. {20:8} Then went in
also that other disciple, which came first to the sepulchre,
and he saw, and believed. {20:9} For as yet they knew not
the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead.

I appreciate your attempt but the running here is not running in praise.

[n david]

Originally Posted by JoeBandy

Lets go back to my original post. Tweets were referring to the type worship as true Apostolic. I am raising the point that no where in scripture do you find an apostle doing what was on the video.

The absence of something written in the NT doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Please post the scripture which shows an Apostle face down and prone.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Is that a calzone or a slice of pizza?

Leap, walk, then leap.

Ok, leap is one movement, and walk is another movement.

I think it's a pizza.

Lean back ... then take a bite. Lean back ... then take a bite.

Leap. Walk. Then praise God. Rinse and repeat.

Some people can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

[Evang.Benincasa]

The praise which was being conducted in the early church is found in Psalm 150:4. 1 Corinthians 14:26 gives the order of those who led the congregation in singing, and the word.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by n david

I think it's a pizza.

Lean back ... then take a bite. Lean back ... then take a bite.

Leap. Walk. Then praise God. Rinse and repeat.

Some people can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

[n david]

Originally Posted by JoeBandy

He was praising God And walking and leaping. Separate things!

Can you walk and chew gum at the same time?

[Esaias]

Biblical Worship

That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost. (Romans 15:16)

Worship in two aspects
Our daily life:

Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God. Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls. But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was. But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed. If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain. Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. (James 1:19-27)

Also, corporate worship – when we come together:

Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts. (Leviticus 23:2)

Feasts = 'moed' or appointment, an appointed time or meeting.
mô‛êd mô‛êd mô‛âdâh
mo-ade', mo-ade', mo-aw-daw'
properly an appointment, that is, a fixed time or season; specifically a festival; conventionally a year; by implication, an assembly (as convened for a definite purpose); technically the congregation; by extension, the place of meeting; also a signal (as appointed beforehand):

Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings. (Leviticus 23:3)

Holy convocation = mik-raw'
something called out, that is, a public meeting (the act, the persons, or the place); also a rehearsal:

So God has 'feasts' or 'appointments' which are holy or sacred 'meetings' for His people. The first and primary appointed time is the weekly Sabbath. This is a time for God's people to gather together for a sacred or holy purpose: meeting with God.

Church = ekklesia
(Thayer's Definition)

1) a gathering of citizens called out from their homes into some public place, an assembly
1a) an assembly of the people convened at the public place of the council for the purpose of deliberating
1b) the assembly of the Israelites
1c) any gathering or throng of men assembled by chance, tumultuously
1d) in a Christian sense
1d1) an assembly of Christians gathered for worship in a religious meeting

The 'church' then is the gathered together assembly of believers, both in the sense of the gathering, and the ones gathered together. Christians are called together into a relationship with Christ and one another. What do God's people do when they gather together to worship God?

Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man. For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer. For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law: Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount. (Hebrews 8:1-5)

By looking at the old covenant system of worship, we can see a type or discern the pattern of heavenly, Spiritual worship.
There was a tabernacle – a tent with an outer courtyard, a wash basin, a brass altar for burning sacrifices, a tent building with the first room containing a golden menorah, table of shewbread, and a golden altar for offering incense. A curtain, behind which is the holy of holies, containing the ark of the covenant. The ark was a gold covered box in which was the Ten Commandments written on the two stone tables, covered with a lid that was called 'the mercy seat', with two cherubim carved on it, and served as a sort of throne. There was a daily (“continual”) sacrifice, once in the evening, and once in the morning. This pointed to Christ being a continual sacrifice that made the whole system of worship sanctified, or acceptable to God.There was a lighting of the candlestick, and offering of incense before the inner curtain at the golden altar of incense. People also brought to the priests their personal offerings of various types – sin and tresspass offerings, voluntary free will peace offerings, etc. Only priests could minister in the tabernacle properly.

By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name. (Hebrews 13:15)
We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle. (Hebrews 13:10)
But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased. (Hebrews 13:16)
Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. (1Peter 2:5)

The old covenant system of worship is a pattern, or shadow, or type, or picture of the new covenant worship. The church is called together to offer up spiritual sacrifices under the new covenant, which include not only our godly living, sharing with one another, and serving one another, but also the sacrifices or offerings of praise and prayer. Here are some elements of Biblical prayer:

Standing in prayer:

At that time the LORD separated the tribe of Levi, to bear the ark of the covenant of the LORD, to stand before the LORD to minister unto him, and to bless in his name, unto this day. (Deuteronomy 10:8)
Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place? (Psalm 24:3)
Ye that stand in the house of the LORD, in the courts of the house of our God, (Psalm 135:2)
And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. (Mark 11:25)
And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. (Luke 18:13)
After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; (Revelation 7:9)

Bowing (prostration):

And I bowed down my head, and worshipped the LORD, and blessed the LORD God of my master Abraham, which had led me in the right way to take my master's brother's daughter unto his son. (Genesis 24:48)

Bowed down my head - qâdad
kaw-dad'
A primitive root; to shrivel up, that is, contract or bend the body (or neck) in deference: - bow (down) (the) head, stoop.
And worshipped - shâchâh
shaw-khaw'
A primitive root; to depress, that is, prostrate (especially reflexively in homage to royalty or God): - bow (self) down, crouch, fall down (flat), humbly beseech, do (make) obeisance, do reverence, make to stoop, worship.

And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation. And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshipped. (Exodus 34:6-8)

Bowed his head toward the earth and worshipped – same words as before (note, he made haste – hurried, “flowed”, into bowing and worshipping)

And when all the children of Israel saw how the fire came down, and the glory of the LORD upon the house, they bowed themselves with their faces to the ground upon the pavement, and worshipped, and praised the LORD, saying, For he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever. (2Chronicles 7:3)
And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh. (Matthew 2:11)
And fell down on his face at his feet, giving him thanks: and he was a Samaritan. (Luke 17:16)
And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever. (Revelation 5:14)

worship - proskuneō
Thayer's Definition:

1) to kiss the hand to (towards) one, in token of reverence
2) among the Orientals, especially the Persians, to fall upon the knees and touch the ground with the forehead as an expression of profound reverence
3) in the NT by kneeling or prostration to do homage (to one) or make obeisance, whether in order to express respect or to make supplication.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by JoeBandy

I appreciate your attempt but the running here is not running in praise.

it was in excitement, anticipation, and belief that Jesus had resurrected, you think there was no praise?

[Esaias]

Kneeling:

And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed, (Luke 22:41)
And when we had accomplished those days, we departed and went our way; and they all brought us on our way, with wives and children, till we were out of the city: and we kneeled down on the shore, and prayed. (Acts 21:5)
For Solomon had made a brasen scaffold, of five cubits long, and five cubits broad, and three cubits high, and had set it in the midst of the court: and upon it he stood, and kneeled down upon his knees before all the congregation of Israel, and spread forth his hands toward heaven, (2Chronicles 6:13)
Now when Daniel knew that the writing was signed, he went into his house; and his windows being open in his chamber toward Jerusalem, he kneeled upon his knees three times a day, and prayed, and gave thanks before his God, as he did aforetime. (Daniel 6:10)
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. (Philippians 2:9-11)

(note: kneeling, and confessing)

And it was so, that when Solomon had made an end of praying all this prayer and supplication unto the LORD, he arose from before the altar of the LORD, from kneeling on his knees with his hands spread up to heaven. (1Kings 8:54)

Hands raised:

And it was so, that when Solomon had made an end of praying all this prayer and supplication unto the LORD, he arose from before the altar of the LORD, from kneeling on his knees with his hands spread up to heaven. (1Kings 8:54)
Let my prayer be set forth before thee as incense; and the lifting up of my hands as the evening sacrifice. (Psalm 141:2)
I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting. (1Timothy 2:8)

Headcovering:

Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head. But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord. For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God. (1Corinthians 11:4-11)

(Power in verse 10 is 'exousia' and means 'authority', the woman ought to have a sign of authority, which is the headcovering, showing to the angels that she is in agreement with Biblical authority. The man's uncovered head would also demonstrate that he is in agreement with Biblical authority as well.)

(The 'man' and 'woman' spoken of in verses 8 and 9 are a reference to Adam and Eve as the Original or archetypical 'man and woman'.)

Praying all together:

And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said, Lord, thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is: (Acts 4:24)

Lifting up the voice:

They shall lift up their voice, they shall sing for the majesty of the LORD, they shall cry aloud from the sea. (Isaiah 24:14)
I cried unto the LORD with my voice, and he heard me out of his holy hill. Selah. (Psalm 3:4)
When I remember these things, I pour out my soul in me: for I had gone with the multitude, I went with them to the house of God, with the voice of joy and praise, with a multitude that kept holyday. (Psalm 42:4)
O clap your hands, all ye people; shout unto God with the voice of triumph. (Psalm 47:1)

(Notice, it says to 'clap your hands' in conjunction with shouting to God.)

Evening, and morning, and at noon, will I pray, and cry aloud: and he shall hear my voice. (Psalm 55:17)

(Notice, prayer three times a day.)

O bless our God, ye people, and make the voice of his praise to be heard: (Psalm 66:8)
And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said, Lord, thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is: (Acts 4:24)
Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; (Hebrews 5:7)

(This is commonly known as 'travailing prayer'.) See also:

Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. (Romans 8:26)

(From Gill's Commentary: and this intercession he makes, "with groanings which, cannot be uttered"; not that the Spirit of God groans, but he stirs up groans in the saints; which suppose a burden on them, and their sense of it: and these are said to be "unutterable"; saints, under his influence, praying silently, without a voice, as Moses and Hannah did, 1Sa_1:13, and yet most ardently and fervently; or as not being able to express fully what they conceive in their minds, how great their burdens are, and their sense of their wants.)

And one of them, when he saw that he was healed, turned back, and with a loud voice glorified God, (Luke 17:15)
And when he was come nigh, even now at the descent of the mount of Olives, the whole multitude of the disciples began to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice for all the mighty works that they had seen; (Luke 19:37)
And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. (Revelation 5:11-12)
After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. (Revelation 7:9-10)

Fervent prayer and worship:

Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord; (Romans 12:11)

(fervent: zeō
Thayer's Definition:

1) to boil with heat, be hot
1a) used of water
1b) metaphorically
1b1) used of boiling anger, love, zeal, for what is good or bad etc.
1b2) fervent in spirit, said of zeal for what is good)

Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much. (James 5:16)

(effectual fervent: The Greek word (ἐνεργουμένη energoumenē) would be better rendered by the word energetic, which indeed is derived from it. The word properly refers to that which has power; which in its own nature is fitted to produce an effect. It is not so much that it actually does produce an effect, as that it is fitted to do it. This is the kind of prayer referred to here. It is not listless, indifferent, cold, lifeless, as if there were no vitality in it, or power, but that which is adapted to be efficient - earnest, sincere, hearty, persevering. - Barnes' Notes)

But let all those that put their trust in thee rejoice: let them ever shout for joy, because thou defendest them: let them also that love thy name be joyful in thee. (Psalm 5:11)

be joyful = ‛âlats
aw-lats'
A primitive root; to jump for joy, that is, exult: - be joyful, rejoice, triumph.

Be glad in the LORD, and rejoice, ye righteous: and shout for joy, all ye that are upright in heart. (Psalm 32:11)

rejoice = gı̂yl gûl
gheel, gool
A primitive root; properly to spin around (under the influence of any violent emotion), that is, usually rejoice, or (as cringing) fear: - be glad, joy, be joyful, rejoice.

Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: (1Peter 1:8)

ye rejoice = agalliaō
ag-al-lee-ah'-o
properly to jump for joy, that is, exult: - be (exceeding) glad, with exceeding joy, rejoice (greatly).

[Esaias]

Praying and singing in other tongues:

And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. (Acts 2:4)
For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. (1Corinthians 14:2)
He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church. (1Co 14:4)

(notice: speaking in tongues is speaking to God (prayer) “in the Spirit”, and edifies oneself)

For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also. Else when thou shalt bless with the spirit, how shall he that occupieth the room of the unlearned say Amen at thy giving of thanks, seeing he understandeth not what thou sayest? For thou verily givest thanks well, but the other is not edified. (1Corinthians 14:14-17)

(praying in tongues is equivalent to “my spirit prays”. Prayer should be both with the spirit, as well as with the understanding. Do both! Notice, there is also singing in tongues. And speaking in tongues is also 'blessing with the spirit” whereby one “gives thanks well”. BUT because praying or speaking in tongues is not understood by others, it is not meant to be heard by and paid attention to by others.)

But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost, Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. (Jude vs20-21)

Praying the Psalms:

The prayers of David the son of Jesse are ended. (Psalm 72:20)
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? (Matthew 27:46)
My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? (Psalm 22:1)

(The Psalms are prayers, and Jesus was repeating the words of Psalm 22:1)

And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said, Lord, thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is: Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said, Why did the heathen rage, and the people imagine vain things? The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers were gathered together against the Lord, and against his Christ. (Acts 4:24-26)
Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed... (Psalm 2:1-2)

(The church prayed the words of Psalm 2:1-2 in corporate prayer)

Singing:

Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. (Colossians 3:16)
Serve the LORD with gladness: come before his presence with singing. (Psalm 100:2)

Kiss of Peace:

Salute one another with an holy kiss. The churches of Christ salute you. (Romans 16:16)
Salute every saint in Christ Jesus. The brethren which are with me greet you. (Philippians 4:21)
Greet one another with an holy kiss. (2Corinthians 13:12)

salute - aspazomai
as-pad'-zom-ahee
to enfold in the arms, that is, (by implication) to salute, (figuratively) to welcome: - embrace, greet, salute, take leave.)

Reading and teaching the Word:

And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people and when he opened it, all the people stood up: And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with their faces to the ground. Also Jeshua, and Bani, and Sherebiah, Jamin, Akkub, Shabbethai, Hodijah, Maaseiah, Kelita, Azariah, Jozabad, Hanan, Pelaiah, and the Levites, caused the people to understand the law: and the people stood in their place. So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading. (Nehemiah 8:5-8)

(This is why we stand for the reading of the Word.)

And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. (Luke 4:16)
And after the reading of the law and the prophets the rulers of the synagogue sent unto them, saying, Ye men and brethren, if ye have any word of exhortation for the people, say on. (Acts 13:15)
Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine. (1Timothy 4:13)

The Lord's Supper:

And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you. (Luke 22:19-20)
And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom. (Matthew 26:26-29)
The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ? For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread. (1Corinthians 10:16-17)

Footwashing:

Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God; He riseth from supper, and laid aside his garments; and took a towel, and girded himself. After that he poureth water into a bason, and began to wash the disciples' feet, and to wipe them with the towel wherewith he was girded. (John 13:3-5)
If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet. For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you. (John 13:14-15)