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Old 08-03-2017, 08:45 AM
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The cherubim guarded the way to the Tree of Life, and kept sinful man out. The cherubim on the mercy seat (throne of God) symbolically guarded the presence of God. The mercy seat itself covered the ten commandments on stone tables, thus shielding us from the curse of the law.

The woman is the glory of the man, and thus ought to be covered, whereas the man is the glory of God and ought not to be covered.

Hair is nature's lesson confirming that women ought to be covered and men uncovered when praying or prophesying. For, if a woman isn't going to be covered, then her hair ought to be cut short, which would be a shame. Therefore, let her be covered.

The woman ought to have exousia - a token or sign of authority - on her head, because of the messengers. The head covering serves as a sign that Divine Authority is in place and being followed in the assembly.

I'm not sure a connection between the cherubim and the head covering - much less the long hair - of a woman can be made???
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some teach that "For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels," refers to angels that were in rebellion to God's order.

Jude 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

and women are covered to show submission to authority, what are your thoughts?
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some teach that "For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels," refers to angels that were in rebellion to God's order.

Jude 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

and women are covered to show submission to authority, what are your thoughts?
No heavenly beings rebelled against God, that's a Jewish myth.

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No heavenly beings rebelled against God, that's a Jewish myth.

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I know I'm late to the party, but... honest question here, what about Lucifer and his band of heavenly misfits?
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I know I'm late to the party, but... honest question here, what about Lucifer and his band of heavenly misfits?
Lucifer is a Latin translation of hallel (sp?) which is a title applied to the king of Babylon in Isaih 14. It is not a proper name (except a Latin term for the planet Venus).

There was no angel named Lucifer who was heaven's choir director, who tried to stage a coup against God, etc.

The thread I linked to goes in depth into the subject.
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