Pre trib rapture teaching is heresy

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Sean

Hey, your chart up there is mid-trib.

Uh, no. The trib lasts 3-1/2 years. You're just clueless.

[Sean]

Is Babylon of chapter 18 destroyed first, then Antichrist revealed to the world in chapter 14 by the 3 angels?

God's people are still around in chapter 18.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Sean

Is Babylon of chapter 18 destroyed first, then Antichrist revealed to the world in chapter 14 by the 3 angels?

God's people are still around in chapter 18.

You mean those 5 foolish virgins that got saved after the secret rapture 7 years earlier?

[Sean]

6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them




Are converts/candidates for death being made in Rev 14 by these 3 angels?

[Sean]

Originalist, do you realize that these 3 angels will preach their message to you and your loved ones before you accept death or the mark?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Uh, no. The trib lasts 3-1/2 years. You're just clueless.

1st time I heard that one.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Sean

Originalist, do you realize that these 3 angels will preach their message to you and your loved ones before you accept death or the mark?

Do you realize that is irrelevant?

You are too blind to even understand what you post.

12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them

(Sean calls them a death cult)

Oh but not Sean because he is having a hi-ho time up in Heaven feasting at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb that does not happen until Revelation 19 just before the groom comes riding from Heaven on a white horse. But Sean accuses US of shuffling chapters to our liking. BBAAHHAAA

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Sean

1st time I heard that one.

Not surprising.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Do you realize that is irrelevant?

You are too blind to even understand what you post.

(Sean calls them a death cult)

Oh but not Sean because he is having a hi-ho time up in Heaven feasting at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb that does not happen until Revelation 19 just before the groom comes riding from Heaven on a white horse. But Sean accuses US of shuffling chapters to our liking. BBAAHHAAA

Marriage supper of the Lamb is right before WE RETURN with Him.

We are introduced to him waaaay back here...



Revelation 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.


Rev 5...


8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.

9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;

[Sean]

....pre seals on the earth.