Post trib doctrine = Christ terrorizes His bride

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by consapente89

I have not personally met any Apostolics who have made the pre, mid, post debate into a test of fellowship.

Some on this forum make it a matter of salvation!

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Some on this forum make it a matter of salvation!

I don't. But what I do make a matter of salvation is when one continually lies and misrepresents the beliefs of others, even after many clarifications have been made. It's one thing to disagree with a teaching. It's another thing to invent a straw man version of a teaching and claim you are debating the actual version.

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by Originalist

I don't. But what I do make a matter of salvation is when one continually lies and misrepresents the beliefs of others, even after many clarifications have been made. It's one thing to disagree with a teaching. It's another thing to invent a straw man version of a teaching and claim you are debating the actual version.

Yet, sometimes we often assume we have been as clear as possible in explaining a matter, but perhaps we were not. Or, regardless of how clearly we communicated, it can still be misunderstood, and so, unintentionally misrepresented by the one who didn't understand. That happens here and elsewhere a lot, more than we realize, sometimes.

Why shoot a man down and try to get him banned when you can't prove malicious intent? Even someone claiming to understand a point of discussion or doctrine doesn't make it so. It's just a claim, as much as saying someone is intentionally lying and misrepresenting the beliefs of others, regardless of the number of clarifications.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

Yet, sometimes we often assume we have been as clear as possible in explaining a matter, but perhaps we were not. Or, regardless of how clearly we communicated, it can still be misunderstood, and so, unintentionally misrepresented by the one who didn't understand. That happens here and elsewhere a lot, more than we realize, sometimes.

Why shoot a man down and try to get him banned when you can't prove malicious intent? Even someone claiming to understand a point of discussion or doctrine doesn't make it so. It's just a claim, as much as saying someone is intentionally lying and misrepresenting the beliefs of others, regardless of the number of clarifications.

With all due respect, there are too many witnesses against the guilty party for all of them to just be misunderstanding him. One would think that the Administration would, at the very least, would admonish him to cease his spamming style of multiple posts in order to obscure the posts of others. That would be common courtesy and several have pointed this out to him. But hey, if you want one poster to drive a stake through the heart of this forum, then we certainly won't stand in the way. But he will be ignored.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

Yet, sometimes we often assume we have been as clear as possible in explaining a matter, but perhaps we were not. Or, regardless of how clearly we communicated, it can still be misunderstood, and so, unintentionally misrepresented by the one who didn't understand. That happens here and elsewhere a lot, more than we realize, sometimes.

Why shoot a man down and try to get him banned when you can't prove malicious intent? Even someone claiming to understand a point of discussion or doctrine doesn't make it so. It's just a claim, as much as saying someone is intentionally lying and misrepresenting the beliefs of others, regardless of the number of clarifications.

Can't prove???? That's funny.

Wow, where was I when this was posted?

There is a sign post up ahead, the next stop is.....the impossible made possible Zone.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Some on this forum make it a matter of salvation!

Is pre trib heresy? Or is it true? Which? If its true its not heresy. If Jesus and the apostles taught pre trib its not heresy.

Which is it Mike?