How Do You Ride a Horse, a Cloud, and a Throne?

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Esaias

So then if a Jew rejected Peter's message, but decided to move out of Jerusalem, and happened to not be in Jerusalem in AD 70... they got saved by accident? Outside of Acts 2:38?

See, that's where I am having the difficulty here. The prophesied judgment was for THAT GENERATION. Therefore the proferred salvation was also for THAT GENERATION. Since the judgment was for THAT GENERATION, it is NOT for OUR generation, or any other generation. And therefore, the proferred salvation would not be for our generation, or any other generation.

Peter even said "the promise is unto you, your children, and even those far away"... meaning the people living in that time, even if they were far away from Jerusalem. Which again causes me to wonder: if the judgment was regarding Jerusalem's destruction by Rome in AD 70, then how could anyone who was far away be threatened with said judgment? Somebody living in say Susa, Persia would not be in any danger whatsoever of Rome destroying Jerusalem....

I apologize for assuming all would mean what entering the "New Covenant" meant. It means their sins were redeemed by the salvific work of Jesus Christ. This came by them repenting, being baptized in Jesus' name for the remission of their sins, and then being filled with the gift of the Holy Ghost, as commanded in Acts 2:38 and elsewhere.

Once they became believers they would also heed Jesus's warning to flee Jerusalem when they saw it surrounded by armies. History records every Christian did this, which left only those Old Covenant believers remaining.

I hope that clarifies my point.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

I apologize for assuming all would mean what entering the "New Covenant" meant. It means their sins were redeemed by the salvific work of Jesus Christ. This came by them repenting, being baptized in Jesus' name for the remission of their sins, and then being filled with the gift of the Holy Ghost, as commanded in Acts 2:38 and elsewhere.

Once they became believers they would also heed Jesus's warning to flee Jerusalem when they saw it surrounded by armies. History records every Christian did this, which left only those Old Covenant believers remaining.

I hope that clarifies my point.

So having one's sins forgiven and being redeemed by the work of Christ would save people from the destruction of Jerusalem by Rome? I'm not understanding how, IF the promised judgment was for THAT generation at THAT time, and the proferred salvation and deliverance was for THAT generation at THAT time, and all had respect to the coming AD 70 destruction of Jerusalem by Rome, how that has anything whatsoever to do with any of us today, or how it would have anything to do with anyone outside of Jerusalem (or perhaps Judea) back then?

I'll have to chew on this for awhile. Maybe I'm not making myself clear, so maybe you are misunderstanding what issue I'm having with this. Or maybe I'm just not understanding what you are saying.

I'll think about this and be back.