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Old 12-04-2017, 07:41 AM
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Re: The Last Reformation Hospital Miracle

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I'm not understanding you. Are you saying you believe X, and the original church knew, understood, and believed X, but there's no record of X?

Don't you believe the Bible is supernaturally designed to be all we need for instruction and understanding? That if it ain't taught in scripture we can't really claim it as doctrine? That way we don't just proclaim our personal opinions as Gospel Truth?

Help me out here,please clarify.

No, Im not claiming to know things that the Bible does not teach or that we need to refer to extrabiblical sources for understanding of the spiritual...lets get that straight right now.

What Im saying is that I believe some things that happen in church, had Paul seen them, he would be confronting them like the fortune teller following after them proclaiming that "These men show us the way to salvation"

Im not talking out my hat here. This isnt something that I alone have seen. My pastor was in a service somewhere between the north and south pole and he walked into a situation like that where something manifested and the people, even the pastor of that church and elders just pretended that everything was cool either out of ignorance or fear.

Basically a guy stood up flexing and bowed up acting like the Hulk.....staring, growling, knocking over pews *with eyes open and glaring * and proceeded to get into a fight with another church member.


Let me ask you this Esaias, do you not believe that the enemy has people stting on our pews hiding in plain sight?

Do you not think its a possibility that they are able to do so because of some things we have let creep in and accept?
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No, Im not claiming to know things that the Bible does not teach or that we need to refer to extrabiblical sources for understanding of the spiritual...lets get that straight right now.

What Im saying is that I believe some things that happen in church, had Paul seen them, he would be confronting them like the fortune teller following after them proclaiming that "These men show us the way to salvation"

Im not talking out my hat here. This isnt something that I alone have seen. My pastor was in a service somewhere between the north and south pole and he walked into a situation like that where something manifested and the people, even the pastor of that church and elders just pretended that everything was cool either out of ignorance or fear.

Basically a guy stood up flexing and bowed up acting like the Hulk.....staring, growling, knocking over pews *with eyes open and glaring * and proceeded to get into a fight with another church member.


Let me ask you this Esaias, do you not believe that the enemy has people stting on our pews hiding in plain sight?

Do you not think its a possibility that they are able to do so because of some things we have let creep in and accept?
You had said you were talking about speaking in tongues in what you felt was a disorderly manner. You didn't say anything about acting violently possessed or going stupid.
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You had said you were talking about speaking in tongues in what you felt was a disorderly manner. You didn't say anything about acting violently possessed or going stupid.

Do you believe in false tongues?
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Wrote a massive post then deleted it.

Question: Do you believe that demonic behaviour can be on display at a church and people be ignorant to it because they have been conditioned to accepting that behavior as a work of the Spirit?

Keep in mind that the church I was raised at...people would go nuts shouting and knocking over pews violently..it was a regular thing
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