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Originally Posted by n david
Some of TLR's staff came to Phoenix about a year ago. I attended one of their "Kickstart" sessions, met and spoke with Peter Ahlman, TLR Sweden's leader, and several who came with him from Sweden, China and other areas.
I have not met or heard Torbin speak in person, but I have watched the entire Pioneer
School series. It appears there may be some differences between Torbin and Peter.
From what I remember, Torbin believes in the oneness of God. Peter is Trinitarian. Both believe in the new birth experience of Acts 2:38 - repentance, baptism and receiving the HG.
During the "Kickstart" session I attended, someone asked if a person should be re-baptized if they either had only been baptized as a child in the Catholic church or had been baptized in a church which did not believe the necessity of the new birth experience. One of the men with Peter was conducting this Q&A and stated they did not believe in re-baptism.
We went in groups out to various nearby stores and malls. A couple groups were told to leave the malls. I was paired with the leader for TLR in AZ. Unfortunately, he didn't have much success at getting anyone to stop or pray for anyone.
I did witness Peter praying for a girl who had a leg short than the other. I'm cautious about saying outright that it was fake, but there seemed to be some manipulation in the way the girl sat and how it was presented. I also know that these type of healings are very popular with faith healers and have a history of being faked.
A young man I know from an apostolic church here got very involved with TLR. His job moved him to KC, where he joined up with IHOP. He's a mess now. He follows Todd White and hangs on every word White says. He visits "healing rooms" (associated with John Lake) and has told me of his friends who have healed people by blowing in their ear or even spitting on people. |
There are healing rooms that claim connection witb John Lake but arent legit. The only legit ones connected with Lakes ministry will be JGLM and Ive never heard Curry mention any kind of nonsense like spitting on people and blowing in peoples ear. Im not refuting your statement...just saying that I know they deal with people who claim to be a part of something they arent.
Everything Ive seen of Todd White is a complete NOPE.
Didnt know that Peter was a trinitarian but Torbin is very clear about being baptised into Jesus.
I havent went to malls or anything to specifically pray for people, I have prayed for people that have mentioned being ill or having pain in public. I can see where some people would be weirded out though. I think that wisdom needs to be used in how you present yourself.
Being connected with JGLM has given me opportunities to prayfor people all over Louisiana since Im the only one they have in Louisiana. The guy I went to pray for in south Louisiana is now attending a Pentecostal church! I was so glad for him because he was wanting a needing a good church.
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