Apostoic worship??

[Esaias]

So, brother Michael, you love and admire and esteem the worship music of an heretical cult? The heretics really know how to worship God meanwhile the actual churches of God just haven't a clue and don't appeal to you? Heretics can touch the throne (™) and bring down the glory while God's people are just clueless? So, God has raised up all these false teachers and false profits and con artists to bring in Real Divine True Worship© and His church is just left to suck eggs?

How is it that you cannot see the absurdity of such a position?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Esaias

So, brother Michael, you love and admire and esteem the worship music of an heretical cult? The heretics really know how to worship God meanwhile the actual churches of God just haven't a clue and don't appeal to you? Heretics can touch the throne (™) and bring down the glory while God's people are just clueless? So, God has raised up all these false teachers and false profits and con artists to bring in Real Divine True Worship© and His church is just left to suck eggs?

How is it that you cannot see the absurdity of such a position?

Do I love and admire the worship from IHOP and some other Charismatic groups? Yes. Are they a heretical cult? In some things yes. Does that mean their praise music is cursed?

Where do YOU draw the line for yourself? While IHOP teaches heresy on the Godhead, new birth and immortal soul, what about Apostolics?

By and large they teach just about as much heresy as IHOP.

Heresies which you yourself acknowledge.

Pre trib. Instant Heaven at death, burning in fire for trillions of years in immortality?

You would say non Sabbath keeping is heresy would you not?

So do you think you feel the anointing or presence of the Holy Spirit when someone who teaches these things that YOU consider heresy?

Do you find yourself shouting and doing a Pentecostal jig when those who believe such things are doing their worship?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Do I love and admire the worship from IHOP and some other Charismatic groups? Yes. Are they a heretical cult? In some things yes. Does that mean their praise music is cursed?

Where do YOU draw the line for yourself? While IHOP teaches heresy on the Godhead, new birth and immortal soul, what about Apostolics?

By and large they teach just about as much heresy as IHOP.

Heresies which you yourself acknowledge.

Pre trib. Instant Heaven at death, burning in fire for trillions of years in immortality?

You would say non Sabbath keeping is heresy would you not?

So do you think you feel the anointing or presence of the Holy Spirit when someone who teaches these things that YOU consider heresy?

Do you find yourself shouting and doing a Pentecostal jig when those who believe such things are doing their worship?

I do not go so far as to claim that heretics who can't even tell you how to be born again have The Best Worship This Side of Heaven™, that's for sure.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I do not go so far as to claim that heretics who can't even tell you how to be born again have The Best Worship This Side of Heaven™, that's for sure.

I'm sure it rained cats and dogs somewhere last week.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I'm sure it rained cats and dogs somewhere last week.

Yes, here. Thought it was going to go from cats and dogs to mice and frogs.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Yes, here. Thought it was going to go from cats and dogs to mice and frogs.

My point was that I believe the words, "The Best Worship This Side of Heaven", was just a personal idiom. Sure, he likes it a lot. But I'm sure he doesn't mean that it is literally true in every sense. I get the impression that he just likes their style of worship music.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Do I love and admire the worship from IHOP and some other Charismatic groups? Yes. Are they a heretical cult? In some things yes. Does that mean their praise music is cursed?

Did I say their music was cursed? Nope, I sure didn't.

Where do YOU draw the line for yourself? While IHOP teaches heresy on the Godhead, new birth and immortal soul, what about Apostolics?

Apostolics don't teach heresy. Apostolics teach the faith and practice of the apostles. Not all oneness Pentecostals are apostolic.

By and large they teach just about as much heresy as IHOP.

I'm sure IHOP teaches every heresy that you could find in a UPC church, PLUS a lot more, like trinitarianism, easy believism, etc PLUS their cultic behavior PLUS their mind-manipulating atmospheric worship methods.

So do you think you feel the anointing or presence of the Holy Spirit when someone who teaches these things that YOU consider heresy?

There is no anointing to teach heresy except what comes from a strong God-sent delusion, or that which is according to the working of satan. I don't judge "anointing" by my emotional state, feeling, or by supposed physical sensations, tingles, shivers, etc. Either the Word is proclaimed faithfully and the Spirit blesses people to believe and receive the Word, which results in "signs following" to confirm the Word, or there's a problem.

Do you find yourself shouting and doing a Pentecostal jig when those who believe such things are doing their worship?

My expressions of praise do not depend on who's doing what, and neither should yours. They should instead reflect your response to God and His majesty.