Apostoic worship??

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

No, it's just what I was taught waaaaay back when I first came into this thing called the Gospel, plus a bit of studying in the Word over the years, with a dash of observation of people and their habits.

You should make all of these audio files on put them on line.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You should make all of these audio files on put them on line.

I did a short teaching once on worship, pointing out the word implies prostration. And how when people came before a king they not only knelt down, but laid out flat on their face with arms stretched out forward.

This did several things.

1. It showed they had no weapons in their hands, and meant no ill, they were not enemies.

2. It exposed their neck, putting them in a very vulnerable position to the king or his servants.

3. It kept one from really seeing what the king or his guards were doing thus demonstrating trust.

4. It placed you in a vulnerable position that prevented you from being able to defend yourself, again displaying trust.

Worship then is when we come to God without fighting Him or His will, with total trust in His goodness, completely vulnerable in that we are willing for HIM to hold all the cards and dispose of us as He sees fit, with no resistance on our part.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I did a short teaching once on worship, pointing out the word implies prostration. And how when people came before a king they not only knelt down, but laid out flat on their face with arms stretched out forward.

This did several things.

1. It showed they had no weapons in their hands, and meant no ill, they were not enemies.

2. It exposed their neck, putting them in a very vulnerable position to the king or his servants.

3. It kept one from really seeing what the king or his guards were doing thus demonstrating trust.

4. It placed you in a vulnerable position that prevented you from being able to defend yourself, again displaying trust.

Worship then is when we come to God without fighting Him or His will, with total trust in His goodness, completely vulnerable in that we are willing for HIM to hold all the cards and dispose of us as He sees fit, with no resistance on our part.

Excellent!!!!!

Put this on an audio.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Excellent!!!!!

Put this on an audio.

Already did: (Warning, there's an actual shofar-blowing at the beginning... heh)

Worship - Message for Day of Trumpets (Yom Teruah…:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfKEDhDA9LQ

[peter83]

Αμεν! I spoke with some oneness people that participate in that kind of worship and they are almost like charismatics! When they see people falling down, running, laughing, walk like dogs etc. they think "Here is the presence of God"!!!!

Of course feelings are designed by God and we react with feelings in the presence of God. But not the opposite! In those circles they fallow feelings instinct of the Holy Spirit.
Again the Spirit doe not react to our feelings and worshiping atmosphere , but our feelings can react to the presence of God and the move of the Holy Spirit can make the atmosphere He wants.

People can be deceived those last times just because every one trust their one heart !

[peter83]

Does God accept whatever worship?

Who gives the "atmosphere" in the church? The Spirit or the people?

Does our worship move the Spirit? or the Spirit move our worship?

Does our feelings influence the presence of God? or the presence of God change our feelings?


When i was in the world i loved rock n roll music! I liked the rhythm, the melody , the dancing etc. Now in Christ i dont listen anymore to this kind of music.
Is it best to give up this kind of music for God?
Or is best to just bring that music i loved to the church and change the lyrics?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by peter83

Does God accept whatever worship?

Who gives the "atmosphere" in the church? The Spirit or the people?

Does our worship move the Spirit? or the Spirit move our worship?

Does our feelings influence the presence of God? or the presence of God change our feelings?


When i was in the world i loved rock n roll music! I liked the rhythm, the melody , the dancing etc. Now in Christ i dont listen anymore to this kind of music.
Is it best to give up this kind of music for God?
Or is best to just bring that music i loved to the church and change the lyrics?

The problem that prevails nowadays is people want worship to cater to them. If they go to a meeting, and the music isn't their favorite, they think "There is no Holy Spirit in this meeting."

How is this not idolatry and self-worship?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by peter83

Αμεν! I spoke with some oneness people that participate in that kind of worship and they are almost like charismatics! When they see people falling down, running, laughing, walk like dogs etc. they think "Here is the presence of God"!!!!

Of course feelings are designed by God and we react with feelings in the presence of God. But not the opposite! In those circles they fallow feelings instinct of the Holy Spirit.
Again the Spirit doe not react to our feelings and worshiping atmosphere , but our feelings can react to the presence of God and the move of the Holy Spirit can make the atmosphere He wants.

People can be deceived those last times just because every one trust their one heart !

Is this church in Athens? Is that the church that has a husband and wife as the pastors? The wife being the preacher?

[peter83]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Is this church in Athens? Is that the church that has a husband and wife as the pastors? The wife being the preacher?

I say for members of many churches
No i dont know any wife pastor.
Women preachers are everywhere general and mostly in UPC.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Already did: (Warning, there's an actual shofar-blowing at the beginning... heh)

Worship - Message for Day of Trumpets (Yom Teruah…:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfKEDhDA9LQ

Awesome! Thank you.