Oneness and Acts 2:38

[TheLayman]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Twisted and scary? Do you work for CNN? LOL!

You have 461 posts. You know what our forum rules include - what we believe.

Please spare the wringing of the hands and the pretentious - "...so if you could just help me out with that I would greatly appreciate it."

Whoa, I didn't violate any rules (yes I have read them)...I began a thread with a question (which no one has answered and the answer is not in your rules). You are the one who looked at my questions (here they are again)

So here are my questions (I may have follow ups). Can you tell me how Billy Graham didn't get it right? (without attacking Graham because if you do, this will immediately become another Billy Graham thread...feel free to detail how he got it wrong).

With words, can you tell me how the Biblical "truth" of "Acts 2:38" is carried out in your church? Let's say someone wants to do it your way in their church this weekend, exactly how and exactly what does that look like? And exactly how is each step "Biblical?"

and YOU made the following accusation (personal attack) in response:

Originally Posted by pressing on

It is about you, being a Trinitarian, not looking for answers from a Oneness Apostolic group, but to push your Trinitarian doctrine.

Doesn't that look ridiculous as an answer to my question? I'm not like most who use the word "cult" in place of "heretical" or "unorthodox." I use cult only when referring to the psychological aspect and what it does to normal objective reasoning, I don't care if it's Jim Jones, or some strange baptist who protests at the funerals of servicemen, or whoever. I often use the term "cult think" not in reference to "what" someone believes but their "reasoning process", i.e. cult think (if you'd like to know what psychological aspects I speak of just let me know). Your "answer" is textbook cult think. Us-them, a simple straightforward question about your belief is a "trap" that has been set by someone who is pushing a different doctrine to entangle you, so whatever you do don't answer because answering a question about what you believe is actually falling into a trap of teaching false doctrine.

Oh boy...I'm still serious, how sad this represents your reasoning processes especially as it relates to God. How sad it is that "your Biblical truth" must hide. I don't see any of this from believers in the Bible...but it doesn't matter. It is obvious that you don't wish to answer me so why don't you just move on. You stopped by to give your ridiculous answer, i.e. make a ridiculous accusation and personal attack, and I commented on it. Doesn't seem to me that you and I have anything else to discuss. And if you can find any Trinitarian doctrine in my question whatsoever all I can say is WOW! (But please copy and paste it for me with highlights).

TheLayman

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by TheLayman

Whoa, I didn't violate any rules (yes I have read them)...I began a thread with a question (which no one has answered and the answer is not in your rules). You are the one who looked at my questions (here they are again)

I didn't say you violated any rules. I said that, in the rules it shows what we believe here on AFF.

So here are my questions (I may have follow ups). Can you tell me how Billy Graham didn't get it right? (without attacking Graham because if you do, this will immediately become another Billy Graham thread...feel free to detail how he got it wrong).


With words, can you tell me how the Biblical "truth" of "Acts 2:38" is carried out in your church? Let's say someone wants to do it your way in their church this weekend, exactly how and exactly what does that look like? And exactly how is each step "Biblical?"

And I say, you don't really care what we believe here AND you already know what we believe. You have posted on this forum 462 times.

and YOU made the following accusation (personal attack) in response:

Doesn't that look ridiculous as an answer to my question? I'm not like most who use the word "cult" in place of "heretical" or "unorthodox." I use cult only when referring to the psychological aspect and what it does to normal objective reasoning, I don't care if it's Jim Jones, or some strange baptist who protests at the funerals of servicemen, or whoever. I often use the term "cult think" not in reference to "what" someone believes but their "reasoning process", i.e. cult think (if you'd like to know what psychological aspects I speak of just let me know). Your "answer" is textbook cult think. Us-them, a simple straightforward question about your belief is a "trap" that has been set by someone who is pushing a different doctrine to entangle you, so whatever you do don't answer because answering a question about what you believe is actually falling into a trap of teaching false doctrine.

Oh boy...I'm still serious, how sad this represents your reasoning processes especially as it relates to God. How sad it is that "your Biblical truth" must hide. I don't see any of this from believers in the Bible...but it doesn't matter. It is obvious that you don't wish to answer me so why don't you just move on. You stopped by to give your ridiculous answer, i.e. make a ridiculous accusation and personal attack, and I commented on it. Doesn't seem to me that you and I have anything else to discuss. And if you can find any Trinitarian doctrine in my question whatsoever all I can say is WOW! (But please copy and paste it for me with highlights).

TheLayman

You would call us a cult regardless of the discussion. I have news for you, go to any church and find out how much we don't agree on everything. What keeps us together is that we know in whom we have believed and we have been filled with His Spirit in the same manner as the Apostles and all those they ministered to in the New Testament.

[TheLayman]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I didn't say you violated any rules. I said that, in the rules it shows what we believe here on AFF.

And I said the answer to my questions are not in the rules...you know that or you would have copied and pasted the answer. If you're trying to play dumb you're doing a great job. Perhaps the questions were too complicated?

Originally Posted by PO

And I say, you don't really care what we believe here AND you already know what we believe.

And I say you're still posting about me and at me...you have no intention of answering my questions but you are still posting at me and about me. ,

Originally Posted by PO

You have posted on this forum 462 times.

Is someone supposed to be impressed that you can read a post count? Is the answer to my questions in a post count?

Originally Posted by PO

You would call us a cult regardless of the discussion.

Now you are displaying a reading comprehension problem because:

1. I specifically did not call Oneness a cult.
2. You can look through my 462 posts (463 now) and you will not find me calling Oneness a cult (though if you read them all you will probably find me saying this elsewhere...that I do not approve or agree with referring to a group who you believe hold unorthdox/heretical doctrines as cult because of doctrine alone).
3. I said YOU displayed cult think and explained what I meant.

Those two facts represent reality. Another psychological anomaly that presents in "cult think" is an inability to deal with objective facts.

Originally Posted by PO

I have news for you, go to any church and find out how much we don't agree on everything.

That sentence makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Originally Posted by PO

What keeps us together is that we know in whom we have believed and we have been filled with His Spirit in the same manner as the Apostles and all those they ministered to in the New Testament.

Right...so are you done doing whatever you are doing now? Can you move on? Thanks for sharing...great answers.

TheLayman