No tithe outside of Israel?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

On another note I have heard rumors that there are well-intended saints in the modern church that tithe money (a balatant violation of tithe law) from outside the land of Israel (another infraction), to folk who do not qualify to receive a biblical tithe.

This is what you said. You are saying very plainly that "tithing money" is a blatant violation of the law, that (the money) comes from outside Israel which is another infraction, and is paid to non Levites (people not authorised to receive tithes, which would be another violation). Violations of the law are sin, as John clearly stated. Therefore, you are saying that tithing money that originates outside of Israel to non-Levites is a violation of the law, ie SIN.

But it is preposterous to assert that a person who chose to give ten percent of their paycheck to the local church is sinning. Why? Because there is no prohibition against a person giving whatever they want to whoever they want, least of all the local church.

Are they "tithing"? Yes and no. Yes, because they are giving a tithe (a tenth). No, in the sense they are not keeping or "doing" Levitical, old covenant tithing.

You said a person giving a tenth of money received is violating the law. (Which would be sin.) But they are not violating the law, there is no prohibition against a person giving a tenth of their money (or any other percentage). It would not, however, be a fulfillment of the tithe LAW which has to do with the produce of the land of Israel, and which could not be strictly performed anyway as there are no Levites and no old covenant anymore.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

This is what you said. You are saying very plainly that "tithing money" is a blatant violation of the law, that (the money) comes from outside Israel which is another infraction, and is paid to non Levites (people not authorised to receive tithes, which would be another violation). Violations of the law are sin, as John clearly stated. Therefore, you are saying that tithing money that originates outside of Israel to non-Levites is a violation of the law, ie SIN.

But it is preposterous to assert that a person who chose to give ten percent of their paycheck to the local church is sinning. Why? Because there is no prohibition against a person giving whatever they want to whoever they want, least of all the local church.

Are they "tithing"? Yes and no. Yes, because they are giving a tithe (a tenth). No, in the sense they are not keeping or "doing" Levitical, old covenant tithing.

You said a person giving a tenth of money received is violating the law. (Which would be sin.) But they are not violating the law, there is no prohibition against a person giving a tenth of their money (or any other percentage). It would not, however, be a fulfillment of the tithe LAW which has to do with the produce of the land of Israel, and which could not be strictly performed anyway as there are no Levites and no old covenant anymore.

Did I EVER tell you that YOUR KUNG FU is VERY GOOD!!!!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

This is what you said. You are saying very plainly that "tithing money" is a blatant violation of the law, that (the money) comes from outside Israel which is another infraction, and is paid to non Levites (people not authorised to receive tithes, which would be another violation). Violations of the law are sin, as John clearly stated. Therefore, you are saying that tithing money that originates outside of Israel to non-Levites is a violation of the law, ie SIN.

But it is preposterous to assert that a person who chose to give ten percent of their paycheck to the local church is sinning. Why? Because there is no prohibition against a person giving whatever they want to whoever they want, least of all the local church.

Are they "tithing"? Yes and no. Yes, because they are giving a tithe (a tenth). No, in the sense they are not keeping or "doing" Levitical, old covenant tithing.

You said a person giving a tenth of money received is violating the law. (Which would be sin.) But they are not violating the law, there is no prohibition against a person giving a tenth of their money (or any other percentage). It would not, however, be a fulfillment of the tithe LAW which has to do with the produce of the land of Israel, and which could not be strictly performed anyway as there are no Levites and no old covenant anymore.

Just in case some of you are having trouble with your eye balls.

This post is excellent.

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Esaias

This is what you said. You are saying very plainly that "tithing money" is a blatant violation of the law, that (the money) comes from outside Israel which is another infraction, and is paid to non Levites (people not authorised to receive tithes, which would be another violation). Violations of the law are sin, as John clearly stated. Therefore, you are saying that tithing money that originates outside of Israel to non-Levites is a violation of the law, ie SIN.

But it is preposterous to assert that a person who chose to give ten percent of their paycheck to the local church is sinning. Why? Because there is no prohibition against a person giving whatever they want to whoever they want, least of all the local church.

Are they "tithing"? Yes and no. Yes, because they are giving a tithe (a tenth). No, in the sense they are not keeping or "doing" Levitical, old covenant tithing.

You said a person giving a tenth of money received is violating the law. (Which would be sin.) But they are not violating the law, there is no prohibition against a person giving a tenth of their money (or any other percentage). It would not, however, be a fulfillment of the tithe LAW which has to do with the produce of the land of Israel, and which could not be strictly performed anyway as there are no Levites and no old covenant anymore.

Okay Esaias,

Let’s do it like this. You answer yes or no.

In the day that Nehemiah and Malachi were walking the earth. You are raising cattle. You have ten head to tithe which is one beef.

Your cow that you tithe is worth 50 shekels. Could you give fifty shekels for your tithe or would that be a transgression of the law?

Please answer yes or no.

Would tithing fifty shekels instead of the cow be a transgression of the law?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Okay Esaias,

Let’s do it like this. You answer yes or no.

In the day that Nehemiah and Malachi were walking the earth. You are raising cattle. You have ten head to tithe which is one beef.

Your cow that you tithe is worth 50 shekels. Could you give fifty shekels for your tithe or would that be a transgression of the law?

Please answer yes or no.

Would tithing fifty shekels instead of the cow be a transgression of the law?

Tithemonster, are you in a church were everyone gives tithes and offerings?

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Tithemonster, are you in a church were everyone gives tithes and offerings?

No.

Are you?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

No.

Are you?

I already explained to you how we do it. Do you remember? So, you don't go to a church?

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I already explained to you how we do it. Do you remember? So, you don't go to a church?

Yes. I remember. Yes I go to church.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Yes. I remember. Yes I go to church.

Oh, sorry, I thought you didn't attend a church. Well, how do they do it at your place? How is giving done? Is the elders full time ministry? How do you all keep the lights on, and the toilets flushing?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Okay Esaias,

Let’s do it like this. You answer yes or no.

In the day that Nehemiah and Malachi were walking the earth. You are raising cattle. You have ten head to tithe which is one beef.

Your cow that you tithe is worth 50 shekels. Could you give fifty shekels for your tithe or would that be a transgression of the law?

Please answer yes or no.

Would tithing fifty shekels instead of the cow be a transgression of the law?

The post you quoted, as well as numerous others in this thread, answer your question, anticipate where you (think you) are going with it, and address those concerns as well. For some reason, you aren't keeping up with the progress of the discussion, but rather you appear stuck on the idea that "anybody who gives ten percent of their income to the church is just wrong, wrong, wrong!"

You seem not to be actually reading the thread. I suggest you review it carefully, then you may be able to participate with something relevant to the topic.